As a Warrington fan who wasn't there today, that first sentence is an absolute delight to read.....I don't want to sound arrogant, but to be battering teams while playing average can only be a good thing with regards to our future trophy chances.

As for yourselves, as an outsider, your demise has been somewhat bewildering to witness over the last few years.....Certainly the days of those 82-16 humiliations (2001?) seem an eternity away now on both sides of the coin, for both us and you.

Whilst you would imagine at some point your fortunes will change for the better, it seems obvious that you need a complete overhaul from top to bottom for that to happen.....The days of the ruthless, efficient Bulls machine seem to have been replaced with an incompetent set-up with little direction....For the good of the game in your area, I hope things get better soon.

That's because Wire ran at him consistently in the first 15 mins as they'd picked him out as a weak link. He's not a scrum half and I would bet he's not a lock forward either. He was a short term bet that hasn't worked out and is unlikely to, if what Bullseye says about the losing culture at the club is right. I can't blame Sykes too much, he's a utility back and an average centre who when we had a fit squad didn't make the first team. I imagine he puts his hand up and given Potter seems to have no confidence in Southernwood or Briggs i can't blame him too much for being willing and following the coach, cheering his injury was despicable. I imagine those who did that have never played themselves.

Wire had a charge down gameplan which Sykes and Herbert couldnt get their heads round all game, Royston Platt Ainscough, Lynch, Lestrange, Hargreaves and Koppy put 100% in every week and il back them lads till the end!

You can't fool people any more WW. Your number's up so move on.

Yes it was 2001. 12-84 with the Bulls scoring 14 tries and 14 goals.

Varying reports as to whether it was 6,7 or 8. I think a couple of times the try was scored 1 or 2 plays later. But still a very high number. And very frustrating that we kept repeating the same mistakes.

I'd be fascinated to see the detailed stats for the game. I cant believe a team has ever scored 50+ points whilst having so few sets inside the opposition 20m line.

I didn't recall it but if they did it certainly wasnt where I was stood. Apart from the kicks Sykes didn't too badly. He's a centre having to play 6 and can't shoulder all the blame for what was a very poor display yesterday.

Whatever has happened with Potter and Briggs needs to be put to bed now and let the lad have some game time, seriously we ant be any worse!

agreed, after yesterday if Briggs cant play next week, after

-Sykes' injury
-'lesser' opposition but i say that lightly
-as others have said, cant do any worse and we are crying out for some sort of change

then I think his days are numbered!!

I'll say we need to go Southernwood / Briggs next week and maybe Herbert at 13! We may as well experiment!

I'd rather see Sibbit at 13 than Herbert. Herbert shouldn't make the 19 next week, he was embarrassing yesterday.

The fundamental difference is that old Ken would pass a fart if he could avoid it.

Is Southernwood ever likely to get a chance? I keep hearing good reports of him in the under 20's but for some reason he isn't near the first team.

Just to add more insult to injury isn't Keiran Hyde the player we let go to Wakefield as part of that deal? He kicked the winner for them yesterday. If it wasn't for the deduction they'd be level on points with 8th placed Hull.

When I look at Hyde doing well at Wakey I wonder what's so wrong at the club that seemingly average players can do so much better away from it.

Well, we're up against Fax next. It's a must win game IMO. And I think a change round at half back might be worth a shot.