Not sure I have a pencil to stick in it......

I got a new tomtom last Friday and, as suggested on the website, I reloaded the maps to have the latest set and now it's corrupted. The help section is less use than a chocolate firegaurd........anyway, I can't even use that now!!

It is easy to reset it - just pop it in the microwave for 30 seconds at Max and it will be good as new.

So Saturday the 3rd of October (my birthday in fact) decides who lives and who dies (retrospectively), hope we have a proper go any thing less will leave a sour taste in everyone's mouth for a long time to come

Surely the only way is up after last time. It's just a long way to the top of the hill.
For some reason Wakey didn't seem able to back up that performance in the other games. ...... maybe it was just a Perfect Storm and they happen so infrequently.
They must start as very big favourites but after our performance against Salford we must have some real hope. A big performance against Fax would help.

We are able to come out in the determined and positive mindset that we did against Salford and against Leigh, and stick to our plan for the full 80.

If we do that, then we can give any of these teams a good game, and that is all I can ask for.

You can't rule out a Bulls win, and as we have played well this season many more times than we have played badly, and as Wakey are exactly the opposite of that, then the chances of us having a good game and them having a bad game are about the same.

Of course they are strong favourites but I don't think you can read too much into that in such a key one-off sudden-death game. It is much more about coming out with the right heads on, and keeping them on. Our best is more than good enough to win, as Salford discovered and we were ominously in control of Leigh, in a match of at least comparable significance to both teams, away from home. For this type of one-off, I really do think the bigger factor is who is more fired up, in the right way, and who is more determined to come straight out and get in the faces of the opposition, and do that for the whole game. Discipline and sticking to the plan are the keys.

Huge well done on making it, really looking forward to this!

Last time we met goes out of the window for this without a shadow of a doubt...it's a one off game with everything on the line...it will come down to who wants it most and who handles the pressure of the occasion...nothing more!

We have had one real bad performance in these qualifiers but blown two chances to win in close games...the bad thing for us, is that in reality we have had two opportunity's the last two weeks to almost guarantee our Super League place and came up short both times, that has to be a worry for us. Also with recent events, no Tim Smith in our side will be a huge loss, as for me he is the only halfback we have who can really boss a game and he showed that against you last time....I think psychologically it will be a big pre-match boost to Bradford that he won't be playing...

Our pack is strong though and it is sure to be a great battle down the middle again...

I remember back to the similar game we were in against Cas a few years ago and the strange atmosphere that night and the tension around the ground...the other striking thing, which I hope is repeated again is the class in how both sets of fans reacted after the game....it could have been nasty, but my recollection is that a lot of our fans were very humble and weren't rubbing it in and Cas fans were very gracious in defeat...I know there were a few issues last time with a few of our idiot fans overstepping the mark, but as I say, I hope everyone can stay respectful in such an important game, and may the best team win!

Couldn't agree more.

Maybe you could get Belinda and Nick to do a half time concert?

Leeds is due north, so the open terrace opposite the hospitality bit will be the north stand. Barnsley/Donny is south, so obvs the hospitality is south end. The sun always shines over Donny so, providing it is a usual kick off time it will be in that direction.

Take it you haven't been to Belle Vue in a few years?

Has it moved? It could have been that earthquake that did it. I'm trying to think of the last time I went, for some strange reason I have a feeling it was Wakey v Salford, which must be well over 10 years ago. My post was based on watching games on TV & specifically seeing John Kear rattling his fingers on the rail of the corporate boxes while watching Wakey get a stuffing with the crowd booing incessantly in the background.

Tigertot is basically right, the portakabin end is pretty much in a SSE direction. As you can see from the aerial view, they are not planning to change the orientation when they upgrade it

Well the away end is covered now!

But did you flush?

I maybe confused about orientation, but wasn't half the point of this that the "away end" is now[i no longer[/i the "away end", or, at least, for the duration of our game, we assume that this will be the case?

It was the 'away' last time we played! But yes it's apparently likely to be segregated in that Bulls fans are pointed to the western side. Not sure how that'll work if they're looking for a capacity crowd though.

I understand your frustration - so I'll try to be clearer:

The visiting support will be directed to the West Terrace - that's the one on your left if you're standing in the corporate boxes (sometimes referred to as the Benidorm Flats) facing out; so there'll be an 'away side' rather than an 'away end.'

The North Stand (which has become the defacto home of the vocal Wakefield support since it was covered under Mr Glover's regime) is behind the sticks at the opposite end to the Benidorm Flats; this is the area that your fans collected in last time, hence the flashpoints.

If you buy a seated ticket, you'll be on the right hand side (facing out from the flats - you get it now) and it is still possible to stand on the terrace in front of those seats - but probably not if you're an away supporter.

If you want the full, fine dining, exclusive 5 star experience, you can buy a table in the Benidorm flats; I think they will pick you up from Odsal Top in the company helicopter, and you'll eat caviar and lobster off the back of a disgraced Tim Smith, who will be forced to act as human furniture as penance for his disgraceful behaviour; there will also be a pigs head on display in the Chairman's Lounge, which you are welcome to stick any body parts that you fancy into, in tribute to David Cameron and his Bullingdon Boys, who enjoy popular support in the now affluent cosmopolis of Wakefield.

I hope that's useful; and good luck on the day - may the best team win.

So let me get this right...

The North stand (which is actually a terrace) is no longer the away stand but is in fact the Home Stand or the Covered Stand or the stand opposite the Benidorm Flats.

The West Terrace (which is a terrace unlike the North Terrace which is actually a stand) is no longer the home terrace but is in fact the away terrace or the terrace opposite the Main Stand (which is an actual stand) and will be where all away fans can be expected to be herded like sheep in future by those lovely, polite, well trained stewards that "police" the ground.

The Main Stand is a stand and has always been a stand apart from the bit in front of it which is actually a terrace and is adjacent to the Benidorm Flats to the East.

The Benidorm flats are at the south of the stadium opposite the home stand, also helpfully called the North Stand despite the fact it is really a terrace which used to be the away terrace until someone put a roof on it (take note Mr Green

) and made it too popular for the away fans so now is used for the sole purpose of only those who can chant "Red, White and Blue Army" every 5mins.

I also think there is also bronze statue of John Kear casually draped over the side of a box in the Benidorm flats looking perplexed in a tribute to the standard sky footage that plagued us all whenever Wakefield games were televised between 2006-11. If you look for this landmark you should be able to work out the rest quite easily!!!

Dead simple then really

If you go for said hospitality above do you chauffeur driven home by Locke?

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Ha ha, I thank you very much for that, though, in truth, as someone who is actually quite well acquainted with the ground I must admit that Tigertot is quite correct [did I [i:1uysv7vnreally[/i and I really ought to have worked it out by working on the obvious connection to the south bound Donny road...I reckon it's just that I was forced into actually thinking that caused the problem.....

Yes.

Do I not not like that?

Ah, quoted and laid down for posterity!

You do - in Brian Smith's car.*



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Anyone know how ticket allocation for wakey is going to be handled. Is it like a league game where they only have to give us a smallish percentage of capacity ( 20% springs to mind but cant remember correct figure),or because its effectively a cup final do they have to give us 50% of the capacity?.