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Quote: Bully_Boxer "Myler may or may not be a done deal.. certainly quite a few rumours flying around. The news coming out of the Salford camp seemed to be that no satisfactory deal had been reached with Warrington as yet. '"


In that case it's worth getting involved if we have some cash.

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I agree that simply selling Burgess would be a PR disaster for the club. We perhaps have a figure from SS that they're prepared to pay and we're now trying to recruit some players already under contract.

For now I guess we will have to trust the club are getting the best deal possible, but given some recent recruitment I can fully understand why people are a little worried.'"


Pretty much sums up my feelings. I'm hoping the club are working on getting the best deal they can so that we aren't going into next season even weaker than this.

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Matty Smith off to Salford so it looks like it's sealed.

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Quote: Bullpower "As I've said, a shame.
Agreed icon_wink.gif But in fairness, I think you are probably allowed a few slips from time to time, as long as you continue to post reasoned arguments and opinions responsibly the rest of the time?

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Quote: Adeybull "Agreed
He does talk rubbish a lot of the time tho

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Quote: Terry Monster "This is what will happen if Burgess is sold.

The club sells Burgess for an undisclosed fee, which means they have got next to nothing for him. Bulls lose their best man, nothing is spent on strengthening the squad, no replacement of adequate quality is signed, we see another miserable season.

Those that think we are going to get a bit of cash for Burgess and see it used for transfer fees for top players are going to be very very dissapointed and you'll be wishing that Burgess will have been held to his contract so we'd have had the advantage of a top quality player playing for us for a further two seasons.

All it will do is further pin down the fact that we have become a selling club.'"


We've talked about this elsewhere, and I know you feel strongly about it. And without a doubt you can see some of those areas of concern are shared by many (myself included). As I think has been said before, I don't see anyone saying we should through choice sell Sam? I'm sure the club through choice would not (and if they were in a position where they had no choice, then we ARE in trouble). And yes, I can't for one minute see us getting much cash if we released him early to go to Oz.

The thing is though, IF (as has been widely trailed in the media but never actually confirmed or denied) his new contract allowed him release if to Oz at end 2010, then since both he and the club willingly entered into that agreement you can't then take issue with Sam for wishing to exercise that release clause? Or with the club for recognising that the clause that they agreed to is there? Assuming of course it IS there, and since the club has not denied it I am assuming it is.

Then we get to the question of whether Sam - or his manager - or various antipodeans - have asked about the possibility of premature release. That is how it is playing out in the media, although I can't recall seeing Sam or even Caisley actually saying a premature release has been asked for by Sam? We HAVE seen what seems pretty unequivocal evidence that folk in Oz have enquired about this, and the only comments attributed to Hood that I have seen - in the Oz media - were that he would be going nowhere unless someone started talking numbers so big that no club could ignore them. Again, on the assumption that he would be free to go to Oz end next year anyway.

Sam's very recent comments read to me very much like he WOULD like to go ASAP, and he sort of implied (I suggest) that it was in the hands of the club to decide. So I feel sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes here. I would hope and expect that the club would make sure that there was indeed an enforceable commitment from Sam to return to us (provided the financial terms are OK) should he return within a reasonable period - should they agree to early release. Caisley should be the bloody expert on that by now...

And (as you know I have said before) why would the club consider early release if not primarily for the money? I suggest that if you can only keep a player for another season, and if he maybe can already sign now a contract for an Oz club to join them in 12 months so his performances next season will not affect his move to Oz anyway, and if (following the antics of his manager and high-profile Oz figures) he is now unsettled, then you are stuck with two choices. Its all very well saying in that case play him in the reserves to teach him a lesson but don't give in to him, but how would having a big chunk of salary cap tied up in a disgruntled high-profiler not helping the first team solve anything?

Its all still hypothetical because we continue to lack hard facts. We really could do without losing Sam. But if he has been persuaded he'd be better off personally seeking early release - IF - then I suggest the club has little option but to try and make the best of it. And you'd hope that Sam would remain sufficiently professional and honest that, should the club not be able to strike a deal reasonable in the circumstances and he can see that the club has indeed tried its best to accommodate his wishes, then he would in turn give HIS best next season.

As I say again though...we still know nowt!

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Quote: tigertot "Matty Smith off to Salford so it looks like it's sealed.'"


www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15235

Indeed
Quote: tigertot "Matty Smith off to Salford so it looks like it's sealed.'"


www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=15235

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Quote: "But prop Burgess said

Doesn't sound like a player on his way to me. But other articles do .

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Souths were going to give Bradford Craig Wing as part of a player trade but he didn't want to go to England.

Wish he did though. Went to Japan Rugby instead.

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not sure what to make of it but did anyone else notice Breaver grab Sam's arm and force him to wave "goodbye" to the stand after todays game ?

sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere

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Quote: MQBlank "not sure what to make of it but did anyone else notice Breaver grab Sam's arm and force him to wave "goodbye" to the stand after todays game ?

sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere'"


Maybe just a joke?


Hopefully!

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nothing unussual about that really he was and all the players were waving goodbye as it was the last game of the season at home

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my mate was talking to Sam's mum earlier today and she said nothing was decided yet for next year.

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Quote: Bradford Badger "my mate was talking to Sam's mum earlier today and she said nothing was decided yet for next year.'"


is that good or bad surely julie would know yes or no

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Quote: XxHONEYxX "is that good or bad surely julie would know yes or no'"


The impression I got from my mate was that "the club" hadn't decided yet. He'd like to go but is under contract so unless something is agreed between us and an Aussie club he'll be here next year.

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