Firstly I can see no further point in BullBuilder meeting Blake Solly again> There is no power of negotiation. It is a done deal already, our fate is decided??

Can someone explain how BB had talks with BS, when apparently the consortiums involved do not appear to have had the opportunity to begin proper negotiations.With so much at stake, Blake Solly is saying what you wish to hear. There is no way they are going to find a new buyer in October, what will there be to BUY?
No ground, no coaching staff, no players because they will have secured their futures elsewhere (no one can blame them for that) Championship Rugby(if lucky)semi professional players, no TV rights or exposure for the foreseeable future. And £72000 per year rental that is unaffordable, With any outstanding debts levied by the RFL as their remaining payments from our Super League status, when they owned us as a club.

BULLBUILDER THINK AGAIN> We know everything you do is for the best possible reason, but we are fighting an intransigent opponent, who has already removed three possible lifelines to our future.

Why would anyone - other than those with closed minds or agendas - not want to listen, when someone in a position to have something to say talks?

Solly spoke to us because we asked him.

Speaking for myself, if he WAS to be saying what people wish to hear, is that any different to what many of the other players in this sorry saga have been doing over recent months? Who ELSE would you not wish the public to hear? And why? Maybe you should credit the fans with enough intelligence to form their own views, rather than be told who they can and cannot listen to, and who they can and cannot speak to?

And again speaking for myself, I think we'll carry on talking with anyone who wishes to talk to us, if you don't mind?

In a post ref: the meeting with Blake Solly, where in many opinions the questions were, not asked of Blake Solly by BullBuilder, is backed up by the above statement.
My feelings are that BullBuilder should do a proper interview by the use of a question by: the named representative from Bull Builder, followed by the response by Blake Solly.
If as supporters we agree that BB representative speak for us: We are entitled to ask them to ask the questions we wish to hear asked.
As a member of BB I would prefer that Blake Solly were aware of all the fans fears...After all we have a greater investment in our club, than the SL staff...they are transient(ie they move on to different employment if the prospects are better) whereas we are permanent in our support for Bradford Bulls.

I think the action of BullBuilder in speaking to BS was the right thing to do, even if he is just like the others and only saying what he wants us to hear.

My only thoughts are that we know nothing of what they are going to do as owners. Will they take an active role in running the club and take on the responsibilities of a board, for their short period in charge? I ask because the next month (and previous one, come to that) or so is a critical time if we are to have a club next season. They have mentioned about our players being allowed to leave, which is only right and proper, but they have said nothing about players coming in, new contracts for coaching staff etc. If SLE/RFL want to sell the club as a going concern (with just the possibility of continuing in SL) they need to have a 'running ' company to sell and without coaches and players for the coming season it won't be a 'running' business. They can't sell it on as a going concern without doing some basic housekeeping.

Much as I fully appreciate they probably - even certainly - would prefer not to have to be too involved with the nitty gritty, [isomeone[/i needs to be. Without some active involvement it leaves the RFL in the position of a builder buying a house to sell, but instead of doing a quick paint job he rips out the fixtures and fittings and tries to sell the house for the same money, as fit for purpose. If they truly want to leave open the possibility of SL next season they should be honest, or if anyone feels that is unfair, more open, about their intentions.

If there is to be any chance of continuing as we are we need a quick sale, that is for sure, as without a more active involvement there will be little left to sell in terms of taking up the SL membership.

The RFL/SLE bid if successful will have done one thing only, ensure that the Bulls see out the season and stop running up any further payments to the Administrator. As for next season they can't contract players or staff as that would be a massive conflict of interests that the SL club owners/chairmen have most likely agreed cannot happen. Imo if no-one comes forward in the near future with an offer to fund the Bulls going forward and some commitment to honour the historic debt then the Bulls will be in a lower league next year.

Yes, we reached this conclusion a few days ago

From what I've read on here and in the T and A he appears to offered some explanation of the reasons the SL license has been revoked but made no mention of the RFL's position on the lease.

On the SL license are we now to assume there is some kind of 'financial fair play system' in place?

Did he have any explanation or comment to offer on how a SL club appears to have recieved £1.5 million from the RFL, 500K from supporters, the entire season ticket income plus whatever we got from Andy Lynch alongside compiling what we're now being told is £1.5 million in debts over a period which included a Super League licensing process?

Your last paragraph Maisiebugs, hits the nail fairly and squarely on the head. Where indeed did it go

I think it's fair to say a combination of poor management, huge internal squabbles, some historic debt, a fall in income due to poor onfield performance and the general effects of a recession sent the club over the tipping point. However, this didn't happen in a fortnight. A quick tot brings us to £3-4 million plus £100k a month losses going forward from what we've been told and the RFL appear to confirm. It's equivalent to 1 years entire turnover.

As RFL's director of licensing who now feels able to take a 'moral' stand on the club's position with regards to debt there is one huge, obvious and until now unanswered question. Where were YOU while a whole series of events occurred that should have had deafening klaxons going off in Red Hall?

To be honest I've felt all along that seeing out the season was always the major concern of the RFL. If they are buying the club then they must look after their asset, dunno what they have offered for the club but selling a Super League club will get them far bigger return than selling lower league team.

Could you expand on that number please? For the avoidance of doubt? Genuine question.

£1.5m (inclusive of VAT) from RFL for purchase of lease.
£1.5m debts now referred to by Blake Solly of RFL. I'm assuming this included the VAT from above so not to count twice.
500k raised from pledge

I haven't figured in the season ticket, Christmas merchandise or sale of Andy Lynch which could be considered had also gone by March nor have I projected the supposed 100k a month liabilities going forward.