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| Quote: Macca "I’m very happy at Bradford. I feel there’s a whole lot more to do.
It’s been an extremely difficult period of time – some of which is common knowledge, some of which isn’t and rightly so.
“To steer us through a very difficult patch and to be in this new place with a very enthusiastic squad, with some young players and some experienced players, I’m really pleased to be here.
“We’ll see what time brings. It’s not just my decision.'"
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| i don't get an overwhelming feeling that he wants to stay somehow? he mentions he's pleased to be here but if he really wanted to stay, those are the comments he'd be making regardless of who was offering contracts in the background?
whatever's happening it needs to be decided soon before it disrupts the squad.
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| From Sky "Bradford chairman Peter Hood says the club's directors still intend to hold talks on McNamara's future at the end of this month, despite the rumours."
"I've read the speculation and that's all it is," he said, "Why would we want to lose arguably the best young British coach in the game?"
Why keep a coach who team has not performed in the past 3 years!!
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"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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| Quote: Adeybull "After all the flak he has had from so many fans, calling for his head, who could blame him? I'm sure though that none of those who have called for his head would not now berate him, should he indeed do what they have been asking him to do for so long?'"
It goes with the territory I'm afraid & he's in the wrong game if he can't handle it. TBH, given your continued decline over the last 4 years the flak on here was less than I would have expected, I can't comment on any hassle he got at games as I have never been one to hang around the tunnel after the final whistle. It just shows all he has really been missing is a class scrum half. Funny that.
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| When the history books come to be written, I think many people may gain a better understanding of why "...It’s been an extremely difficult period of time – some of which is common knowledge, some of which isn’t", and especially about what isn't. That might shed a very different light on his tenure, and the constraints he has had to operate under. As would and will any future coach.
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| If the papers and press are to be believed then he's on his way (probably at the end of the season).
Can you blame him?
We as a club have waited until the last year of his contract before looking at negotiating a new one - whether that be his or the boards decision isn't 100% clear.
As Adeybull points out - there are certain constraints on the club which may never be revealed, and the lack of success (and or progress) on the pitch since Macca took over would not have helped his bargaining position.
So, (assuming that we make the eight - position 6-8 and make little impact in the play-offs, go a couple of rounds in the cup but out before it gets really serious) at the end of this season, would the fans be happy with Macca staying?
Many wouldn't be and the board may decide enough is enough and he's on his way. However, at this point he can probably safeguard his family's future for the next few years by taking the England job - which, when you look at it is the pinnacle of a coach's career.
Ask Brian Clough - he'd have loved the England football managers job. Macca has got his own aims, one of which appears to work in Australia and the England job may well be a stepping stone in allowing him to do so.
Do I want him to go? I'm 60/40 in favour of him staying, especailly given the encouraging start to the season and the way the squad does appear to have a lot more going for it than in the last few years, more so given the young lads making regular appearances such as Whitehead and Donaldson which will provide a firm base for the first team for the next (hopefully) 5 years or so.
Many of these young kids are being groomed by the club the right way now (which wasn't the case under Nobby) so that the aim is to get to the first team and these lads know they will get an opportunity if they are good enough.
Macca has done a lot of work that the one-eyed fans don't see - ie those who simply see success at the club as winning super league every year. We now have a structure in place where we have a strong set of kids, who will hopefully provide the backbone of the team in the next 5 years - the Burgess boys, Southernwood etc. Macca has been influential in getting these kids at our club - he may not be the one that sees the benefit of them, but let's look back in 5 years to see how well Macca actually did for our club, if he does in fact leave for the top job.
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| Quote: Bradford Badger "If the papers and press are to be believed then he's on his way (probably at the end of the season).
Can you blame him?
We as a club have waited until the last year of his contract before looking at negotiating a new one - whether that be his or the boards decision isn't 100% clear.
As Adeybull points out - there are certain constraints on the club which may never be revealed, and the lack of success (and or progress) on the pitch since Macca took over would not have helped his bargaining position.
So, (assuming that we make the eight - position 6-8 and make little impact in the play-offs, go a couple of rounds in the cup but out before it gets really serious) at the end of this season, would the fans be happy with Macca staying?
Many wouldn't be and the board may decide enough is enough and he's on his way. However, at this point he can probably safeguard his family's future for the next few years by taking the England job - which, when you look at it is the pinnacle of a coach's career.
Ask Brian Clough - he'd have loved the England football managers job. Macca has got his own aims, one of which appears to work in Australia and the England job may well be a stepping stone in allowing him to do so.
Do I want him to go? I'm 60/40 in favour of him staying, especailly given the encouraging start to the season and the way the squad does appear to have a lot more going for it than in the last few years, more so given the young lads making regular appearances such as Whitehead and Donaldson which will provide a firm base for the first team for the next (hopefully) 5 years or so.
Many of these young kids are being groomed by the club the right way now (which wasn't the case under Nobby) so that the aim is to get to the first team and these lads know they will get an opportunity if they are good enough.
Macca has done a lot of work that the one-eyed fans don't see - ie those who simply see success at the club as winning super league every year. We now have a structure in place where we have a strong set of kids, who will hopefully provide the backbone of the team in the next 5 years - the Burgess boys, Southernwood etc. Macca has been influential in getting these kids at our club - he may not be the one that sees the benefit of them, but let's look back in 5 years to see how well Macca actually did for our club, if he does in fact leave for the top job.'"
The OSV has probably been one of the main reasons Peter Hood has not pressed ahead with looking to renew Macca's contract, that must have been and still is a big distraction and in some ways more important!
BB is being parsimonious with with his 60/40 for Macca staying given that he has shown a good understanding of the Clubs problems since 2006
The usual if this happens this season or doesn't happen is disengenuous to whether Macca stays or goes! If he left it would most certainly put the Club's chances of success back a least 2-3 years!
This is not Maccas we must win something this season (it would be nice) its Macca showing that he is building a Squad that will win Cups in the future and sustainably!
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Depends if they're getting a jibe in about Paul Deacon everytime they post
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| Quote: Blotto "The usual if this happens this season or doesn't happen is disengenuous to whether Macca stays or goes! If he left it would most certainly put the Club's chances of success back a least 2-3 years!'"
Why's that? 3 of the top 4 teams in SL have coaches who turned around their team's fortunes immediately. If Bulls appointed James Lowes then maybe.
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| Whether Mcnamara leaving is a good thing or bad thing IMO depends entirely on his replacement.
If he does (as seems pretty likely) take up the England job I'd like to wish him all the best as I admire and respect his efforts at Bradford both as player and coach. I hope his legacy is a successful Bulls squad full of home grown players in the near future.
I wonder if the wassocks that verbally abused him on his way down to the touchline last year are happy this time next year.
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