With some players looking like they play in the 1980s it's only right the stadium looks like it's from that era too.

Rfl didn’t contribute to maintenance costs. They paid the peppercorn rent and got commercial rent from us and we were still responsible for maintenance costs. At least we’re sharing those costs with the stock cars now, likewise you would expect Rates bill to be split between both users as well.

I'm sure I saw a press release from the stock car people saying the renovation costs had been split between then, us and the RFL. Oh well.

I was talking about the maintenance costs under our lease with RFL. Afaik RFL are contributing towards the the renovation costs. Haven't heard anything as to whether they will contribute towards maintenance going forwards.

Right so the millstone remains around the neck...

This feels like the last season for me.

Paid more for a family season ticket than I would have at St Helen's to sit in a hole, watching a mid table team still living off past glories with about as much chance of getting back to the promised land as Vic Rangers...

Giants charge £99 don’t they for an adult ST? What’s the club meant to do, reduce from this pro rate in line with quality of rugby?

Other clubs have backers or other income streams that allow subsidised tickets, we don’t and either lose money playing at dewsbury from corporate or lost supporters or move back to odsal and accept it comes with some cost. People still keep saying we need a brand spanking new stadium but everyone knows this but there isn’t one and one is unlikely so do we throw the towel in or keep trying?

What do you honestly expect the club to do?. A new Stadium ain't going to happen we aren't as lucky as other clubs who have had council support.

The club tried the cheap ticket option and is one of the reasons we are where we are. We don't have a rich backer, you don't get Halifax,Fev fans complaining about the situation they are in, they get on with it, why should we be any different?

Agree with all that but there are huge issues with the eventual ownership of the club and how that came to be. This season is utterly crucial and as a fanbase we would need to see some significant investment in time/money/other resources in moving the club forward on and off the field for any of it to make sense. It boils down to one simple question; Why is Nigel Wood here?

but hopefully now a smaller millstone if its shared with stock cars.

someone mentioned earlier in thread that club are trying to buy lease back from RFL. Guess that would classify as significant investment but not sure what benefit would be as would just mean we wouldn't be paying commercial rent to RFL ( but instead shelling out approx 10yrs rent in one hit) and instead be back paying peppercorn rent to council. Either there's some long term plan or we're back to someone wanting to get their hands on odsal for some unspecified payoff which seems unlikely as the Stockcar lot wouldn't have invested amount they have without having a longer term lease agreed.

The whole mystery around the ground, and the lack of any kind of proper engagement from Nigel Wood is the main "turn off" for me. There are so many important unanswered questions that are fundamental to the future of the club (not to mention those questions about how we got here) yet nobody is prepared to front up. We're just expected to pay our admission and pretend none of this other stuff matters. I want to get behind the team but I can't help but feel it will all fall apart again under the current regime. The best we can hope for is just to plod along. Hardly inspiring.

Workington is the only one which springs to mind.

To be honest, much as I like both Stock cars and speedway, it doesn't look quite like I imagined 21st century RL would look like. As a rugby club we're going backwards imo and it's hard not to feel a bit dispirited by it.

The ground is no different to what it was in the mid 80s (parts of it are actually worse) and it wasn't good enough then. That's an indictment of all parties involved.

Be honest would be good. Why are we charging more than most SL clubs but seeing phuq-all return for it?

We were lucky but Morrison's screwed that completely (proud to say I no longer shop there nor will I ever) but how long am I expected to stump up BMW money on an Austin Maxi just because we are told the MIA salesperson is gonna put go faster stripes on it?

It's taken a very long time to wear me down but tell me we have to go to Dewsbury or we are finished and I am fine with that but not so much with the immediate 180.

Honesty. Nige.... Where are you and what's the plan?????

Fev wiped the bloody floor with us last weekend, Fax have more or less admitted they have no ambition for SL any more, if that's the case for us then tell us and lets get a suitable ground share in place, lets drop the pretense and charge/act like a permanent Championship club like Dewsbury and Batley who are still streets ahead of us in plans and ground ownership