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Quote: Bullseye ".............Hopefully once a deal is signed a bit more info will be forthcoming.........'"

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Quote: Bullseye ".................... I really hope we hear more after the end of this non season.......'"

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Quote: Bullseye "...... a bit of straight talking from our owners would be welcome.'"


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stop it, stop it, my sides are splitting

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Quote: Bull Mania "Not sure how the administrator was prevented doing his job. It was HIM who rejected the bids as they weren't good enough for the creditors and it was him who put the club into liquidation. AFAIK, the RFL didn't accept or reject any offers during the administration. They brought the the Bulls franchise (club, name, logo etc) from the administrator once he put the liquidation process in place I believe.'"


Didn't they have to buy them back from David Thorne? Or is that my mind playing with me. Could have sworn he had bought things form the administrator in preperation when he set the holding company up

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I think you could be right.

Also didn't Petit approve Thorne only for the RFL to put out that a new team was being set up because Pet-tit had already announced the liquidation. For once the RFL would seem to be in the right, it was the Administrator that went back on his announcement?

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So the thread regarding the Tribunal case is locked because of the kitchen troll, so thought I'd comment here, as it concerns big Nige at the RFL and the current Bulls organization, but the T&A reported that the case also names the Secretary of State of Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy as someone who they are claiming against.

Now I thought I understood most of this having stood on both sides at different tribunals (100% success rate so far!) and the rules of TUPE, but this gets more bizarre. I know the government gets blamed for most things, but really can't see why they are responsible for not paying 39 members of staff at Bradford Bulls. Anyone any ideas, apart from this statement that the government are involved confirms a massive conspiracy icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Scarey71 "I think you could be right.

Also didn't Petit approve Thorne only for the RFL to put out that a new team was being set up because Pet-tit had already announced the liquidation. For once the RFL would seem to be in the right, it was the Administrator that went back on his announcement?'"


Alleged the administrator facilitated the meeting between Thorne and the players that were left when they claimed the liquidation hadn't gone through the process yet, and they were buying the club and TUPE transferring the players across to a new co. The administrator had locked the gates, so had to sanction opening up the ground to let the meeting go ahead

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Quote: Scarey71 "I think you could be right.

Also didn't Petit approve Thorne only for the RFL to put out that a new team was being set up because Pet-tit had already announced the liquidation. For once the RFL would seem to be in the right, it was the Administrator that went back on his announcement?'"


Yeah I think he recommended Thorne to the RFL. Has the old company actually been liquidated yet? seem to remember someone posting that it was still in administration? Also I do seem to remember that in T&A Gareth Roberts was due to speak to the council and RFL in January this year, maybe he has something to do in the background too.

Back to Big Nige, if it is to be the case and it happens so be it. I just really hope he has learned massively from the mistakes he made at Halifax that they still havent recovered from. That is the big worry.

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Quote: Mirfieldbull "Alleged the administrator facilitated the meeting between Thorne and the players that were left when they claimed the liquidation hadn't gone through the process yet, and they were buying the club and TUPE transferring the players across to a new co. The administrator had locked the gates, so had to sanction opening up the ground to let the meeting go ahead'"


Didn;t this meeting take place at cue gardens, with a supposed RFL employee in attendance?

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Quote: Mirfieldbull "....

Now I thought I understood most of this having stood on both sides at different tribunals (100% success rate so far!) and the rules of TUPE, but this gets more bizarre. I know the government gets blamed for most things, but really can't see why they are responsible for not paying 39 members of staff at Bradford Bulls. Anyone any ideas, apart from this statement that the government are involved confirms a massive conspiracy
The claimants had claimed payouts from the Insolvency Service which were refused, so I suppose the thing must include a claim that the Insolvency Service was wrong to reject the claims.

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Quote: Mirfieldbull "So the thread regarding the Tribunal case is locked because of the kitchen troll, so thought I'd comment here, as it concerns big Nige at the RFL and the current Bulls organization, but the T&A reported that the case also names the Secretary of State of Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy as someone who they are claiming against.

Now I thought I understood most of this having stood on both sides at different tribunals (100% success rate so far!) and the rules of TUPE, but this gets more bizarre. I know the government gets blamed for most things, but really can't see why they are responsible for not paying 39 members of staff at Bradford Bulls. Anyone any ideas, apart from this statement that the government are involved confirms a massive conspiracy
I think I remember Alex Mellor tweeting something regarding .GOV or HMRC or something like that being useless regarding redundancy payment after liquidation. I would presume the government has something in place for paying workers wages when they have worked a month and the company goes bust not paying anyone.

Guess we'll see who pays what. Sure Green won't have to pay a penny though. icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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Sdministrators report is here:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

Haven't read it all as it's just too depressing and just makes me angry at what went on. But according to the report, the two bids were rejected by the administrator as they weren't good enough for creditors and also the RFL did in fact by the assets of the club (E.G. name, logo etc) for £60,000.
Sdministrators report is here:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

Haven't read it all as it's just too depressing and just makes me angry at what went on. But according to the report, the two bids were rejected by the administrator as they weren't good enough for creditors and also the RFL did in fact by the assets of the club (E.G. name, logo etc) for £60,000.


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As someone said earlier good to talk about this as talking rugby is so depressing!!!

Just had a quick scan of the liquidators last report, a couple of things struck me

1. Under point 5.9 he states the RFL started an unauthorized bidding process for the assets left from the liquidation, doesn't reflect well on the governing body in showing they were working to their own agenda in isolation from the administrator, especially as they had the final say over potential owners.
2. In 8.7, he confirms that the books showed they owed £1.091m when the end came, but subsequent claims from creditors increased that sum to £2.448m, including a substantial claim from the directors not previously recorded. Anyone any idea why Green would do that when he knows the money had run out, I don't get it

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