My workings out were 1000 x £280.00 = £280,000

Take away the tax that needed to be paid on this figure (hoping the club now understand the need to pay a tax bill on time) and it will leave you with close to the £200,000 figure for salaries.

Not an exact science, but that was my thinking.

btw, It's a sad day when I'm having an adult debate/discussion with the trolls and getting attitude from the 'Bulls Family'. I get that people are passionate, but some of the 'attitude' on this thread makes poor reading.

Concerns were raised at fans forums around the time the payment plan was introduced, and the club gave fans assurances that any monies received for 2014 STs would be ring-fenced and not spent during the 2013 season.
Now you can choose to believe them, or you can say they were lying to us all. I somehow get the feeling that you will be choosing the latter option.

If you believe everything you read in the press, more fool you. Sorry, yes you are.

You said he had been bulling himself up, I asked you to show me where he himself said anything, you have come up with nothing.

Sutcliffe simply stated he was not a sugar daddy. That is not bulling him up, friend or not. it is clearly a statement of fact. It warns people that he does not have limitless funds of money and so things could get tricky in the future. and yet somehow you have turned that into Gerry worshipping Ok for putting billions into the club.

No, as I have to do that myself it is not usual to forget about tax bills. But I also refer to the fact that the court case was a dismissal of a case meaning settlement of the debt. I was not blaming football for the bulls going under owing £500k. What football, through raising a footballer who may already have several million pounds in the bank to the level of preferential creditor over and above HMRC and other creditors who may not have been paid for debts of a lot longer standing than the fall-over boys, have made sure that HMRC jump are oversensitive to sports clubs generally.

As previously stated, I was wise months ago, before all this, yes as OK has stated through Gerry, he is not going to solely fund the problems, so of course I am concerned. But nonetheless I prefer facts to nonsense.

and on that note, nothing from the gutter press yet.

Really??? Think there is someone else who needs a reality check on here.

I've read many a post from you this year and it seems to me that you are one of a few who really have a problem with the owners and appear determined to stick the knife in at any given opportunity.

I'm not entirely sure why... I have my own suspicions why but i'll leave them off this forum.

The fact is that the new administration told us that it would take 3yrs to get this club back on the right road. They told us this at the first fans forum. They also warned us that the playing staff would take time to turn around. You dont just get to overhaul a crap team in 3months so why you expected anything better than last year i'll never know. I guess this doesn't matter as you, after all it wouldn't give you anything to complain about, would it?

The deal with the one hour sale was misguided but similar ploys happen in business all the time (I've booked tickets for shows only to see them slashed days later... just one of those things).

The sacking of the shop manager.... we don't know the full facts, Jay Willey.... we don't know the full facts, you get the message (or maybe you don't???)... YOU DON'T KNOW THE FACTS!!!

Why is this "stick" deserved when you actually know very little about the true facts. You seem to know very little about the real world at all in fact.

Ryan Whitcut has complained at the false speculation and bad press (yes something you've been very good at this last year) and has moved to put an end to this. He also says that his door is always open, something I've found out myself when I've been concerned by a few things. Its amazing what can happen when you ask. I wonder if you have given him or others an opportunity to put their own side forward before spouting what can only be described as unfounded and nauseating bile.

I've said it before and i'll say it again... You're either a fan (and if you would like me to given you a definition, please don't hesitate to ask for one ) or you're not... which one are you???

The worst aspect of mystic eddie's attitude is that he despises and denigrates precisely those persistent fans who are actually keeping the club aliveLuckily for the club, we seem to have an extraordinary amount of gullible followers who will be spoon-fed by the "PR" and sign up for another season.'"

Regarding your question about using the payment plan.The answer is yes you can, I set up a plan earlier this week and paid the first £60 there and then and 2 payments of £60 will come out on direct debit (November and January I believe).Plus i also got my free away shirt that day as well.

Thanks for that, at least that's assured me a little.

Indeed you do.



Come on then, share your suspicions. What do you not have the cojones to accuse me of?



Correct. I do not know the facts. Just commenting on what was reported in the local media (in Gawthorpe-gate) but subsequwntly not denied by the club. In the case of Jay Willey, I did, of course, merely comment about her length of tenure, not the ins and outs of the case. We know the length of her service so it is indeed a fact.



Don't be so silly. What you know about me in order to enable you to make such a claim is curious. Like you say, stick to facts.



Ryan Whitcut would be better served getting his job done properly rather than spending time on social media. If he was not so distracted by what others had to say then he maybe would not forget to pay the bills.

No it is NOT selective quoting, it is specifically referring to the thing I specifically intended to object to.

But, you suggest that the extra bit you emphasize makes it somehow better. It doesn't. It makes it worse by adding "bloody patronising" to the mix. You are in no way mitigating your insult that all these fans are just "gullible folowers" who will sign up because they because 'believe all they are spoon fed'.

For your information, pronouncements by the board of Northern / Bulls have NEVER played any part in my decision to keep going to games and supporting my team, and never will. And before you start, I don't claim to be in any way some special case. I would bet the vast majority of diehard season ticket holders would say similar.

Believe everything in the press? Who is doing that? Where did you read the quotes you attribute to Sutcliffe?

The simple fact that Khan has had his bag carriers making a great fuss over his investment in his own business. Are the reports of these people printed in the T&A not to be trusted?

Is only what the club puts out on it's website or through social media to be believed? So when Robbie Paul tried to gloss over the wages being unpaid as an administration error, he was being truthful?

When the club declined to announce it had been subject to a winding up petition by HMRC, it was being open & honest with fans?

No one forgets about tax bills. They ignore them because they haven't got the money to pay them. The club had spent what it should have put aside from income received. This is a business less than 12 months old & already it's governance & financial probity is in serious question.

You blamed football for the HMRC pursuing unpaid tax bills. I simply pointed out that the previous Bulls went under owing HMRC £500k & within just a few months the new incarnation has left HMRC waiting so long it issues proceedings.

Ryan Whitcut has claimed another administration error & claimed that the winding up order being made public is an attempt to destabilise the club. I'd say it was the club being exposed as being very badly run & those responsible trying to deflect the blame, wouldn't you?

The new regime at the Bulls is as rotten, more so with the political tie ups, as the old one that fleeced fans for £400k.

Your crusade to save us is noble, and we the meek thank you for making us see the light. All the heathens will burn.

However, it still doesn't change the fact I like to go watch the rugby, and if it all crumbles down again then I'll go watch them play Rochdale or Keighley.