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Quote: Stul "Really? I take it it's giro day in East Hull today, so the crystal meth dealers are doing a roaring trade.'"


Just the kind of response I expected.

I take it you are happy to sponge of the whole of SL?

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Quote: debaser "Me? None. But I would also be willing to invest in a new club.
However, the vast majority would not. I am almost certain of that.'"


and on the other hand, I did not pledge as i thought it was just a stay of execution, and the captain steering the ship didn't fill me with confidence it would be used in the clubs best interests.
This scenario is totally different.

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Quote: FONT "Just the kind of response I expected.

I take it you are happy to sponge of the whole of SL?'"


Not if it means we have to associate with people such as you.

Anyway, another cretin to go on ignore.

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Quote: Stul "Not if it means we have to associate with people such as you.

Anyway, another cretin to go on ignore.'"



So someone objects to your club being given preference and you label them “a cretin”

I have lost the little faith I had in the RFL and all the respect I had for Bradford Bulls, how could you all look at yourselves in the mirror if this went ahead?

Please, someone see sense, this is wrong on so many levels!

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Quote: FONT "So someone objects to your club being given preference and you label them “a cretin”

I have lost the little faith I had in the RFL and all the respect I had for Bradford Bulls, how could you all look at yourselves in the mirror if this went ahead?

Please, someone see sense, this is wrong on so many levels!'"



It's a clear conflict of interest.
It's a waste of money to avoid the problem of an unbalanced fixture list.
It's also neither our decision or fault and it's really a pity there isn't an rfl board on these forums where you could go and vent your righteous anger.

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Quote: FONT "So someone objects to your club being given preference and you label them “a cretin”

I have lost the little faith I had in the RFL and all the respect I had for Bradford Bulls, how could you all look at yourselves in the mirror if this went ahead?

Please, someone see sense, this is wrong on so many levels!'"

No one actually objects to your opinions, it's just the place you air them. If you have a problem with decisions made by SLE or the RFL they have perfectly good websites with the option of contacting them. Have you not considered that as your first option, rather than bothering us, who I really shouldn't need to remind you, have NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE DECISIONS'

Please don't reply, as you are now on 'ignore'.

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Quote: Bulliac "No one actually objects to your opinions, it's just the place you air them. If you have a problem with decisions made by SLE or the RFL they have perfectly good websites with the option of contacting them. Have you not considered that as your first option, rather than bothering us, who I really shouldn't need to remind you, have NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE DECISIONS'

Please don't reply, as you are now on 'ignore'.'"

i think people (fans of other clubs) are blowing this out of proportion as i understand it havent SLE just bought it to give you longer to find a buyer and you will probably still end up in the championship anyway its just a way to stop you going bust

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Quote: fun time frankie "i think people (fans of other clubs) are blowing this out of proportion as i understand it havent SLE just bought it to give you longer to find a buyer and you will probably still end up in the championship anyway its just a way to stop you going bust'"

Pretty much, as far as I understand it. We've not heard if it's been accepted anyway, so far as I know.

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Quote: fun time frankie "i think people (fans of other clubs) are blowing this out of proportion as i understand it havent SLE just bought it to give you longer to find a buyer and you will probably still end up in the championship anyway its just a way to stop you going bust'"


Thank you for reminding us that almost all fans of other clubs can be perfectly normal.

I just can't fathom why they would go to all of this trouble to leave us as a Championship club - with the reduced rent for Odsal that would surely follow (I'm not saying they shouldn't - I just don't see why they would).

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But for all the talk, unless there is considerable investment and influence we will be in the Championship next season. We must accept that this is the rightful punishment for the mismanagement of our club over many years.

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Quote: NormanNorman "But for all the talk, unless there is considerable investment and influence we will be in the Championship next season. We must accept that this is the rightful punishment for the mismanagement of our club over many years.

Norman'"


Thought our 6 point deduction was our "rightful" punishment? And none of it is the fans fault, or the players, yet they seem to be the ones getting punished.

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I wish that was the case and if we had been 'saved' sooner then perhaps the 6 points is a fair punishment. As it stands however we are practically in liquidation due to many many years of overspending and only surviving at all due to the goodwill of the staff and the actions of the other RL clubs.

Unfortunately 6 points is this season's 'punishment' only and unless things dramatically change very soon, we will have to rebuild in the Championship.

It will be sickening to lose some of our best players (particularly the local talent that we have produced) but I have no doubt that if the majority of the core fan base sticks with the club then we will be back near the top of Super League within the next 10 years.

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Quote: Stul "Thank you for reminding us that almost all fans of other clubs can be perfectly normal.

I just can't fathom why they would go to all of this trouble to leave us as a Championship club - with the reduced rent for Odsal that would surely follow (I'm not saying they shouldn't - I just don't see why they would).'"


By doing this they have control of how far you drop, if nobody is interested in buying the club outside SL and you drop to Championship 1 ( playing Hemel,Northampton,Skolars ) next year potentially held together with some form of supporters trust, you could easily disapear completely, and I doubt you would be able to afford any rent at all for odsal .

However if your newco owners are SLE/RFL, they can put you in the Championship playing small but recognised names such as Leigh,Fev,Barrow,Batley, even potentially Halifax ( if Toulouse get the nod to replace you ) , this would help to retain a sizeable portion of your fan base ( they hope ) and allow you to ' tread water ' until a buyer is found and probably allow you to pay a reduced but still significant rent to keep RL at Odsal, in theory they could take a loan out for the lease purchase and charge you the interest

They cannot finance you as a SL club, it would be a massive conflict of interest

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Quote: NormanNorman "I wish that was the case and if we had been 'saved' sooner then perhaps the 6 points is a fair punishment. As it stands however we are practically in liquidation due to many many years of overspending and only surviving at all due to the goodwill of the staff and the actions of the other RL clubs.

Unfortunately 6 points is this season's 'punishment' only and unless things dramatically change very soon, we will have to rebuild in the Championship.

It will be sickening to lose some of our best players (particularly the local talent that we have produced) but I have no doubt that if the majority of the core fan base sticks with the club then we will be back near the top of Super League within the next 10 years.

NormanNorman'"


Though this thread was for highjacked for a while by some numpties it was building some positive ideas for the future but the key now is for quick actions otherwise its not just a question of which league we play in, but if there is to be a team representing Bradford in any of the leagues in the coming years. The sooner you apply a bandage to an injury the better to stop further bleeding - in our case of players, staff and fans

PS - Have you joined Bullbuilder yet?
PPS - I am not on commision, but even if I was it would go straight into the hardship fund

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What does the future hold? I don't know. The SLE buys us some time, not a lot. The people in the know seem to think we will lose players when the new company exists, maybe we will. Maybe we do have to rebuild and if so we will do it again. The important thing is we have a club to rebuild, but something has to happen quickly. How can we rebuild if we don't know which league we will be in and therefore what the budget will be.

But there must surely be a plan because if we go into liquidation how does SLE/RFL get its money back?

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