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| If my Auntie had balls she'd be my Uncle.
People overly complicate simple matters.
Rhinos are irrelevant to us. Brian Mac will lead his team to above us in the table, I've no doubt. GH's record explains itself more than I have any desire to. Mick Potters similarly. What has Potter achieved; other than consecutive failure. Take away the Aussie accent and the landscape may be different.
The age gap is guff. Each player on his merits. There is no set standard for retirement as we saw with Menzies.
They have faith in their youngsters. We are pis$sing about signing 32 year old printer lovers at the expense of our competent younger players. Yes the Rhinos youngsters will have rough edges, how many young players don't? How many of those wouldn't we take, especially given the grandstanding about the highly over hyped Burgess bros? I'm not sure I see your point especially given the rough edges of Ben Jones Bishop who made the international squad.
I'm tired of hearing about "sport cycles". What the typist actually means is "thank feck for that" rather than reality which is, actually, it could be any amount of time.
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| Gurus Beard, whilst I can see where you are coming from with alot of your points, it seems as though you're trying to put a negative spin on the Bulls and a positive one on the Rhinos.
I don't think McDermott will be a disastrous appointment as some would like to think, I don't think he'll be a brilliant one either.
Whilst he may have introduced plenty of young players, he's also finished in a lower position each year, made their best young talent (LMS) go backwards and completely lost the fiath of most of the Quins fans (okay there isn't many, and he has a bloody hard job)
If you were Mr Hood, would you have chosen Potter or McDermott? Fair enough, Potter has lost in a number of big finals, but you have to be a good coach to get your team there in the first place (especially with Catalans). Would McDermott have got Saints to the GF without either of their half backs? I doubt it. Saints have had plenty of injuries this season, and Potter managed to steer them to 2nd, i'm much happier having him take over than if McDermott had. Obviously all IMO, but I think you're giving McDermott far too much credit and Potter far too little.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Gurus Beard, whilst I can see where you are coming from with alot of your points, it seems as though you're trying to put a negative spin on the Bulls and a positive one on the Rhinos.
I don't think McDermott will be a disastrous appointment as some would like to think, I don't think he'll be a brilliant one either.
Whilst he may have introduced plenty of young players, he's also finished in a lower position each year, made their best young talent (LMS) go backwards and completely lost the fiath of most of the Quins fans (okay there isn't many, and he has a bloody hard job)
If you were Mr Hood, would you have chosen Potter or McDermott? Fair enough, Potter has lost in a number of big finals, but you have to be a good coach to get your team there in the first place (especially with Catalans). Would McDermott have got Saints to the GF without either of their half backs? I doubt it. Saints have had plenty of injuries this season, and Potter managed to steer them to 2nd, i'm much happier having him take over than if McDermott had.
Obviously all IMO, but I think you're giving McDermott far too much credit and Potter far too little.'"
The "spin" is irrelevant, I have no desire to the Rhinos do well. I am however objectively assessing how I feel both teams will progress.
What has Potter achieved? At Catalans, good budget, ex NRL players. No brainer. Lets not fluff up the obvious.
If I was Hood I would have employed Brian. No question.
This myth around LMS going backwards is just that, a myth. The views of the Quins fans likely don't factor in the limitations Mac had to deal with.
Nobody has explained why Rhinos players rate him so highly yet there view and a few Quins fans supposedly usurps it.
Perhaps I should repeat this for the cataract ridden amongst us, what has Potter achieved at Saints given his playing roster?
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| Quote: Gurus_Beard "Perhaps I should repeat this for the cataract ridden amongst us, what has Potter achieved at Saints given his playing roster?'"
With the injuries he had this year he managed to get them to 2nd and a GF, it is only in my opinion of course but I think that takes a very good coach.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "With the injuries he had this year he managed to get them to 2nd and a GF, it is only in my opinion of course but I think that takes a very good coach.'"
Injuries? That every team had, including Rhinos who probably had the worst of any.
A playing roster of Wellens, Meli, Gidley, Eastmond, Graham, Roby, Cunningham, Peletua, Flannery, Soliola et al isn't too shabby.
I repeat, what has Potter done?
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| Quote: Gurus_Beard "I repeat, what has Potter done?'"
Took them to consecutive Grand Finals. Do you not agree that getting to a final is an achievement in itself?
What has McDermott done?
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Took them to consecutive Grand Finals. Do you not agree that getting to a final is an achievement in itself? '"
With that playing roster, no.
Quote: Ewwenorfolk "What has McDermott done?'"
I've made that clear. As have the Rhinos senior players.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Took them to consecutive Grand Finals. Do you not agree that getting to a final is an achievement in itself?
What has McDermott done?'"
Took Quins to consecutive 12th place on the ladder and produced outstanding young talent like Lamont Bryant and Will Sharp
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| Quote: Gurus_Beard "With that playing roster, no.
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You could have a team full of superstars and they'd still need a decent coach to get them to a final. The fact that they did it without Pryce or Eastmond means it took an even better one.
Do you have something against Potter? Or do you still have a soft spot for McDermott?
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| What has McClennan done this term? Lost the dressing room. Gameplan was looked at by the players, if they didn't like it, they'd do their own thing and get away with it as McClennan didn't want to interrupt the team atmosphere.
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| Quote: Sam Buca II "What has McClennan done this term? Lost the dressing room. Gameplan was looked at by the players, if they didn't like it, they'd do their own thing and get away with it as McClennan didn't want to interrupt the team atmosphere.'"
Then in some ways McDermott will be a good appointment, he'll certainly be able to get the team to follow the same gameplan - he'll make sure of it-, but then if the gameplan isn't good enough what's the point. Imo, a team of McClennan and McDermott would have had the best of both, but I'm sure Gawwy knows what he's doing.
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| Quote: Bulls4Champs2010 "Took Quins to consecutive 12th place on the ladder and produced outstanding young talent like Lamont Bryant and Will Sharp'"
Yes, the views of JP and Sinfield are usurped by that offering. No, really.
Ironically, both Bryant and Sharp would get in our team. We have little room for manoeuvre or high moral ground given whilst we have Worrincy and Ian Sibbitt mincing around in RAB.
Remind me, how well have we done against Brian Mac's Quins team?
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| Quote: Gurus_Beard "
Remind me, how well have we done against Brian Mac's Quins team?'"
Terribly. I have no doubts McDermott is a better coach than McNamara though, he's not better than Potter.
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| Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Terribly. I have no doubts McDermott is a better coach than McNamara though, he's not better than Potter.'"
We will reserve this conversation next October. Let's quit the showboating. How much would you like to place on it?
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| Quote: Gurus_Beard "Yes, the views of JP and Sinfield are usurped by that offering. No, really.
Ironically, both Bryant and Sharp would get in our team. We have little room for manoeuvre or high moral ground given whilst we have Worrincy and Ian Sibbitt mincing around in RAB.
Remind me, how well have we done against Brian Mac's Quins team?'"
Yes, who cares. 12th and 12th, no really.
LMFAO.
Dunno, probs won more than weve lost I would have thought, remind me? Where has Brian Macs team finished for the past 2 years?
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