Stats for Patrick Ah Van www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... eamid=3498

Stats for Patrick Ah Van www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... eamid=3498

I know it's only one game, but it is his most recent

Total minutes played: 80, Sin Bin: 0, Send off: 0, Try: 1, Goals: 0, Field Goals: 0, Points: 4, Total Runs: 12, Total Metres: 122, Tackle Busts: 2, Linebreaks: 0, Linebreak assists: 0, Try Assists: 0, Offloads: 0, Handling Errors: 0, Penalties Conceded: 1, Total Kicks: 0, Kick Metres: 0, Tackles Made: 8, Tackles Missed: 0

No missed tackles, no errors, a couple of busts, about 10 mpc. Not bad from that.

Peter Cusack played in 4 NRL grand finals and won a premiership. Motu Tony had played 18 times for NZ he wasn't exactly unproven.


Can you name me a better impact forward from England? Or indeed any English impact forward?

So your point is - its ok to sign foreign players, as long as they play for your lot. Got it.

No, my point is it's ok to sign foreign players who can give you something that no one British can.

And the only one on your list thus was, according to you, Fat Sam?

do you find people don't understand you when you sit down? if so it's probably something to do with the fact the you are talking out of you're ar$e.

People offer other assets. Experience and leadership are big reasons, I can gurantee you Fitzgibbon and O'Meley have brought players on and will leave a positive impact on the English game. Can you name me an avaliable prop who has played in 4 grand finals? Or a prop who had played over 200 games including 27 rep games? Or a loose forward who has played over 300 games including 35 rep games?

ATEOTD we'll see to me plenty of English players would offer just as much as this guy who no one has even heard of.

I can name lots of British forwards that have bigger impact than Sam Moa and I am pretty sure you could aswell, but I CBA right now.
And now you're trying to tell us that there's no British forward that can provide the same impact as Sam Moa.

Can you give me the names? The fact England have drafted in Big Maurie from Saints and Willie Manu from us show how much explosive impact English forwards can give.

Like who?

Who is available and willing to come to Bradford.

And if you haven't heard of him, you can't have seen him play so how do you even know what he offers?

What about Lauaki????? Does he come under the same category?

Precisely.

My question was purely to see how much bias he showed. If bias wasn't shown, I'll continue to discuss it.

Since it's clear that his argument doesn't count against Hull players in the same mould, I'm going to ignore him and treat him as a troll.

Kiwi blood back at Odsal , i hope he turns out to be another Hape/Withers type signing.

absolutely correct as platt will be going to salford as part of deal that brings ratchford to bulls.