Er... Yes...

Let me guess.. Next question "Replace with who?".

Have to see who's interested.

Get Noble back from Wigan

Yes. The bottom 3 are;

2009 - 10268
2008 - 10287
1996 - 10346 #

(#done from my own figures so might not be exact but its close enough i reckon, and this is nudged over 10,000 by the 17360 gate for the Wigan game)

By the end of this season we will average less than 10,000 for the first time in SL. Understandable given the performances - 1996 we only lost 1 at home, 2008 we only lost 4 at home, this year we've only [iwon [/i2 at home. I think the fact we're still above 10,000 is a minor miracle.

I am neither a bulls fan or mcnamara fan but you all are falling into the trap that its all the coaches fault. he players you have are simply not trying in part because they are on good money and with no relegation are taking the easy option of going through the motions.

A new coach might help for a few games but you have to wake up to the fact the players are lazy and a few not good enough, plus your financial position not helping.

The finances are a major factor in mcnamara staying the club wont sack him as they cannot afford to pay him out and he will not walk why should he.

What do you know about our clubs finances? Or are you just listening to the rumours?

No, you are a Keighley fan. And please don't presume to tell us what we are "all" doing or that all the players are "lazy". And unless you have some inside track that all of us on here do not have, I think you will find the question of finances has been debated on here ad nauseum by people who know a lot more than you do.

Can't argue with that.

If I was in a job where it didn't matter whether I met my objectives, and by this I mean 'as long as I had an excuse' I was still getting a paycheck every month, I know I wouldn't walk away.

Not only that, but even if I was in deep trouble, and my boss kept telling everyone he had faith in me, well that's just he icing on the cake.

I'm not saying that Macca is a bad coach or that we are a bad team, arguments can be made on all sides of thos equations. What is undeniable is that the club and the coach are a mismatch. We simply don't fit together.
It is also imperative that the club is now decisive and show all and sundry what they intend to do about it. I'm afraid that the youth development policy will not work on it's own. By waiting for the youth to develop we will see the crowds dwindle even lower.(This week could be alarming. WE can't qualify for the play-offs and it is the getaway weekend for the 6 weeks holidays. They could announce the crowd to the teams instead of the other way around). Once the crowds have bottomed out we may find that we have to sell any players that we develop simply to stay in business.
Maybe what we need is to put Macca in charge of the youth development whilst bringing in a proven coach that can turn fortunes around.
And don't forget the coach only needs to get us higher than 12th to be a success now, he doesn't have to be challenging for honours in his first season.

If you want trite, yes, of bloody course he is. But all season I have been hoping we could do a better analysis than just "sack the coach" which in many quarters is sheer vindictiveness, the same proponents usually also want a "hard man", hairdryer coach because they want the players to be roundly shouted at.

If I thought either of those things was THE answer then i'd support them too, but I comment on what i see, and that is, a team with a soft underbelly, not playing for each other. All must take a fair share of the blame for this disaster of a season and McNamara is the man in charge - of the first team at least - but I reserve my biggest personal criticism for the players, who have let him and all of us down, and my firm conclusion is that over a season if you played that same lot, a coaching team of JC and Vlad the Impaler wouldn't achieve a higher league position.

Although enjoying the fact that Wakey are higher in the pile than you lot, I do think it is sad that the two so-called new shining lights of Brit coaches have turned out to be poor, both dragging down recent Grand Final sides (you and Hull FC). It's made sadder by the fact that the most effective purchases this season have been of two Aussie coaches, with Brown at Hudds and Smith at Wire.

Maybe the answer is to never promote an assistant from within the same club. Some people are just meant to be assistants, and if they want to go higher, perhaps they have to go lower to learn the trade.

I know what you're saying, but Elliott was Smiths assistant, Noble was Smiths and Elliots assistant and they both worked out well, we've had the same coaching lineage (sp?) since 1996 and it brought us many many trophies. I think part of our problem is that whilst this approach can and has worked for us, we've done it too much now. And the next appointment, whenever it is, needs to be someone external to the club this time and a fresh start.... wont be anytime soon though.

How many lessons can one side be taught?



Same old Bull. Put up with your own pi$s poor side Macca, or shut up. The sooner the board realises your ineptitude to take our club forward the better.'"

I can't see Macca being in charge much loner. Bring Hanley in til the end of the season while an Aussie is recruited (my prediction, not choice).

Please don't sack McNamara because if you do we'll probably end up with him at Hull.