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And there was me thinking you thought I could not direct you to the right place too. icon_wink.gif

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OK, I accept "knee jerk" probably wasn't the best choice of phrase.

Have the club gone backwards under Steve? Without doubt you would have to say that, yes it has.

Is it purely down to Steve? I really don't think it is.

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Quote: mystic eddie "And there was me [ithinking [/iyou thought I could not direct you to the right place too.
Just goes to show how wrong you can be then fella, doesn't it icon_lol.gif . . . . Don't take it to heart though, there's no shame in it. Although, if you need closure in that way to make you feel better about yourself ME, then fine, knock yourself out icon_lol.gif

I asked you to show me where the comments were. You (and RER) did that. If I'd have believed you couldn't have done that I'd have said so outright and / or littered the post with laughing emoticons icon_wink.gif

So thanks for showing me one (possibly two) recent comments to quantify your "there are some on here" post. Much appreciated icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Wigan Bull "OK, I accept "knee jerk" probably wasn't the best choice of phrase.

Have the club gone backwards under Steve? Without doubt you would have to say that, yes it has.

Is it purely down to Steve? I really don't think it is.'"


Have already e-mailed the relevant people referance this subject and others, hopeing for a reply but who knows

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Quote: redeverready "Why have i been dragged in to this.'"


You haven't really TBH RER.

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Quote: redeverready "Why have i been dragged in to this.'"


My apologies if I made you feel that you'd been dragged into this particular melee RER. It certainly wasn't my intention and I didn't realise it could be read that way - having reread, I appreciate that it could be.

Quote: redeverready "You haven't really TBH RER.'"


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What are the board waiting for.

The bloke is still here. Have they forgotten what they need to do?

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Quote: Ajw71 "What are the board waiting for.

The bloke is still here. Have they forgotten what they need to do?'"

And that is your classic rlknee-jerkrl. Not so much in the time taken, rather the thought process evident. Team = 13th therefore coach = sack, much like blow to the knee = jerk of the lower leg.

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Dont know how you have come to that conclusion really.

There has been a gradual decline under the tenure of SM.

We have a squad with much more potential than it is showing. Most of the players arent bad players but they are playing like bad players at the moment. To me this says more about the coach than anyone else.

Probably the most worrying thing about all this is that the fans seem to be leaving in their droves. Granted this is not all down to SM but im sure watching a winning team wouldnt do any harm at all. Say what you like about glory hunters etc, people dont want to see teams who lose every week.

So I dont want to sound dramatic but yes it seems that SM could be damaging the club long term.

Obviously he doesnt mean to be a poor coach and I appreciate that they are trying to turn it around but how many more times can you take "I will turn it around" etc etc only to see it not happening on the pitch.

I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, I was sticking by him long after others had turned. Only a few weeks ago I cringed when I read the posts of people like Mystic Eddie.

But I dont believe he can now recover this position. This season is a write off, and we might as well start planning for next season now imo. We need someone with the motivational skills to drag us out of the hole. A fresh start.

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Quote: Ajw71 "Dont know how you have come to that conclusion really.

There has been a gradual decline under the tenure of SM.

We have a squad with much more potential than it is showing. Most of the players arent bad players but they are playing like bad players at the moment. To me this says more about the coach than anyone else.

Probably the most worrying thing about all this is that the fans seem to be leaving in their droves. Granted this is not all down to SM but im sure watching a winning team wouldnt do any harm at all. Say what you like about glory hunters etc, people dont want to see teams who lose every week.

So I dont want to sound dramatic but yes it seems that SM could be damaging the club long term.

Obviously he doesnt mean to be a poor coach and I appreciate that they are trying to turn it around but how many more times can you take "I will turn it around" etc etc only to see it not happening on the pitch.

I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, I was sticking by him long after others had turned. Only a few weeks ago I cringed when I read the posts of people like Mystic Eddie.

But I dont believe he can now recover this position. This season is a write off, and we might as well start planning for next season now imo. We need someone with the motivational skills to drag us out of the hole. A fresh start.'"


I still don’t buy in to the “it’s all SM’s fault”.
I think the decline started before he was placed in charge. He has had to arrest that decline and try and stabilise the club (not on his own obviously), then begin to implement things to start the rebuilding process. This isn’t going to happen in a matter of weeks or months, it will be a number of years.
On this seasons performances, yes you would have liked to think we’d be going a little better. However, we are struggling for bodies; I know that is wheeled out too often as an excuse, but look at what’s been sat on the sidelines this season. Many of the top players have had spells out. I like to see how any business reacts to having a large percentage of its top earners sat in the canteen.

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Quote: Ajw71 "
I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, I was sticking by him long after others had turned. Only a few weeks ago I cringed when I read the posts of people like Mystic Eddie.
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Not to worry. You have finally seen the light. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Wigan Bull "I still don’t buy in to the “it’s all SM’s fault”.
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And you never will.

It's got to the stage where everyday it's the same argument. Some people will back McNarama no matter what and others want him out.

The only thing i'd say is that the camp for wanting him out is growing and has recruited some of the more respected posters.

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Quote: Wigan Bull " I like to see how any business reacts to having a large percentage of its top earners sat in the canteen.'"


As long as Solomona paid for his food I would be delighted.

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Quote: Ajw71 "We need someone with the motivational skills'"

I'd rather prioritise long-term concerns than get hung up on the ten minutes before the game and at half-time. And that's where the knee-jerk criticism is valid. The failure of the Sack Mac contingent is to fully consider the whole picture. They want things sorted and they want it yesterday.

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