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Quote: Bradford Badger "Ignoring the highs we've experienced since SL, ultimate moments that will always stay with me are the 2 games that cost us the league title prior to SL (93-94 if my memory is correct).

Losing to Leigh at home when Dave Watson tried to commit murder, and the draw against Hull when Deryk Fox missed what seemed like 100 kicks at goal.'"

Didn't Gerald get four that days as well? Real opportunity to make history missed, that year. Wonder how the end of season WCC against Brisbane would have gone though? Wendall Sailor vs Roger Simpson, anyone?

BTW Foxy kicked one goal out of 7 IIRC though they were all out wide. Think Eastwood only got a couple. Northern 30 Hull FC 32, ugh.

That makes me think of another idea for the club - re-release Bradford Northern, Quest for Glory on DVD. Maybe they could digitally remaster it so one more of the kicks goes over.

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I just remember leaving those games absolutely drained. It was the season of so near yet so far. I think we also lost against Cas in the Regal Trophy in the Semi final on New Years day. Lee Crookes nutted Newlove and got away with it and after that Newlove went hiding.

That day was definitely the quietest I've had at Odsal. A fair few hangovers in the crowd!!!

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Quote: af "Wendall Sailor vs Roger Simpson, anyone?'"

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Wendall would have cried off.

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Quote: Bradford Badger "I think we also lost against Cas in the Regal Trophy in the Semi final on New Years day...'"

Who went and stuffed Wigan. We should have had one Regal Trophy in the early 90s at least. People bang on about Burnden Park, but forget that the year after we had two armwrestles with Wigan at Elland Road, in the RT Final and the CC semi, ending 15-8 and 15-6 respectively. That Northern side got as close to breaking Wigan's dominance as any did.

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Quote: af "Wonder how the end of season WCC against Brisbane would have gone though? Wendall Sailor vs Roger Simpson, anyone?
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It would have been great to see. Even though we'd have got battered!

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I remember going across to Central Park for the first round of the challenge cup in the early eighties. The match was played in an absolute mud bath. We got beat either 4-2 or 2-0 after a dubious penalty was given against Keith Mumby of all people. Big Brendan Hill played a blinder and we deserved a replay at the very least.

Wigan went on to win the cup that year and thus began their period of dominance. I have often wondered whether a sighted referee and a bit of luck might have changed the history of the game.

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Quote: Honourabull "Can't remember exactly which year, but Leon scoring the winning try at Headingley with two mins to go when the game looked beyond us comes close.'"


2002.

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Quote: af "
Which brings us to another point - our treble was so much better than Saints' treble.
Your treble was a very fine line.

in 06 it was total domination for saints, it was unanimous, thrashings in both finals, finishing 8 points clear etc.

In 03 the bulls were involved in about 3 games with leeds that really could have gone either way. If they had gone leeds way leeds owuld have won the cc and fnished top.

The bulsl won the treble in 03, they lost the same amount of games as they did in 02 when they won nothing.

Just pointing out what a fine line there was between success and failure for the bulls in 03, there was no such line for saints in 06.

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Quote: Mick Gledhill "Who remembers the big 1997 Sky Super League kick off on a cold Friday night at Odsal v Warrington

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yeah i remember that and remember them handing out free super league milk.

also remember warrington making some big signings at the start of the season and everyone thinking it would be their year...

including Martin Dermott who didn't play in another super league game

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Quote: Snake Eater "Your treble was a very fine line.

in 06 it was total domination for saints, it was unanimous, thrashings in both finals, finishing 8 points clear etc.

In 03 the bulls were involved in about 3 games with leeds that really could have gone either way. If they had gone leeds way leeds owuld have won the cc and fnished top.

The bulsl won the treble in 03, they lost the same amount of games as they did in 02 when they won nothing.

Just pointing out what a fine line there was between success and failure for the bulls in 03, there was no such line for saints in 06.'"


In both treble years, the main threat was Leeds, who with similar squads to the previous year went on to take the following season's title on each occasion.

In the case of Bradford in 2003, they had to defeat Leeds at Cardiff to secure the cup, at Headingley then Odsal to claim the hubcap and in the play-offs en route to Old Trafford. You say they could have gone either way. This suggests the result was, like a coin toss, determined by chance. But the Leeds-Bradford coin was tossed five times in 2003 and it came down Bradford-side-up five times. The chances of that occuring by chance are 1/32, or 3% I'd say it probably did not occur by chance.

In the case of Saints, Leeds hit the auto-destruct in the CC semis and the first round of the play-offs, so Saints faced Hull and Huddersfield in the two finals of that year.

Saints may have been further ahead of the rest in 06 than Bulls were in 03. However, I'd argue that coming through each of a series of battles with your nearest challengers to record the perfect season is more aesthetically pleasing than an uneventful cruise laid on for you by the failings of others.

Quote: Snake Eater "Our treble was so much better than Saints' treble.'"

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Quote: af "In the case of Bradford in 2003, they had to defeat Leeds at Cardiff to secure the cup, at Headingley then Odsal to claim the hubcap and in the play-offs en route to Old Trafford. You say they could have gone either way. This suggests the result was, like a coin toss, determined by chance. But the Leeds-Bradford coin was tossed five times in 2003 and it came down Bradford-side-up five times. The chances of that occuring by chance are 1/32, or 3% I'd say it probably did not occur by chance.
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How can you try and compare a rugby game to a coin toss? You won the CC final by 2 points, a league game at headingly by 2 points and a game at odsal by 1 point (which secured top spot). There were many incidents in those games, had they gone leeds way they could easily have won all 3.

It's exactly the same as, had things gone your way in games against leeds last year, you would not have lost a single game to leeds and would have finished 2nd and probably made the grand final
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Quote: Snake Eater "How can you try and compare a rugby game to a coin toss?'"


Heads he takes the two, tails he fulfills his destiny.

Easy.

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Quote: vbfg "Heads he takes the two, tails he fulfills his destiny.

Easy.'"


That kind of illustrates my point though.

Saints didn't need a brain fart from one of the opposition players.

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One of the greatest ever was the moment at the final whistle at Murrayfield 2000 when we realised we'd won it and I looked around to see dozens of blokes in tears with the sheer emotion of those last 10 minutes.

If I could re-live just one match though it would be the 2001 grand final. That was a rocking day from start to finish.

Cardiff 2003 was pretty special too - what I remember of it!!

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I would have thought the ultimate bulls moment would have been the Challenge cup semi final in 1996.

It wasn't just a game, it was symbolic. It marked a new era, the bulls era if you will. They had finally made it. This was followed up a year later with a title win, 3 years later CC win then a year after that the famous 5 grand final heaven began.

Nearly a decade later the 2005 grand final marking the end of this wonderful period of success. Possibly the most glorious in Bradford's history.

Now however, marks a time of change and financial uncertainty.

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