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Quote: VanGinger "I get the points above but it's a new world we live in now and streaming is part of it.
People have got used to watching it at home. Ifollow have for a couple of seasons allowed UK supporters to pay for games that aren't 3pm Saturday (as this time has been specially reserved for years by the football league, although they are now thinking of changing that).
At a fiver, where a few people could watch it, was fine during Covid restrictions, but long term it isnt financially viable for the club. However they could put the price up so people could choose to watch at home wherever they live, or choose to go to the game. We all prefer to be there in person and if the prices are closer, the ones who can, probably will go. This is then an extra income for the club for those that live further away, or are away, or have mobility or other issues that mean they can't attend, it allows these people to support the club still. Some that can't afford to take their whole family right now, can still watch it and stay connected, hopefully to return in the future.
The EFL will go that way permanently, RL should look at it and consider it.'"


Absolutely, I think a few on here probably need to move with the times a little! I agree that 5 quid isn't viable but I think streaming is something that is here to stay and clubs need to be seriously thinking how they can use it to their advantage. Obviously RL is a poor sport but I'm not convinced that having a streaming option is suddenly going see crowds plummet or not showing it is going to see those who might of paid to watch the stream descend on Odsal with the entire family.

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i'll throw my hat in .... from 2010 ive scrambled to find online updates or live commentary for bulls games (the time i actually came to live in China) ... all social/media websites are blocked here. Luckly i came across the marvel of vpns icon_smile.gif (although hit and miss). it wasnt till BCBradio started live bulls games i could listen to a full game (happy days). later bulls did their facebook free streamimg during our champ 2 season (2018 i think and also vpn reliant). pay per stream is a no for me (although i will gladly pay) as they require paypal (also blocked and tried with a chinese visa card ... still no go and even if i could pay im still relying on a vpn). others on this website like Blotto (who i think did a stint in china) and jackmac (who seems to live in a place where internet is unheard of) also struggle.

my meaning is, im just happy getting any updates

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Couldn’t agree more with VanGinger . I live 200 miles away , it’s not that simple to travel to see every game especially with a disability. It’s a different world we live in prior to covid so things need to change . Attitudes need to change . Rugby League is far too parochial in its outlook . I would happily pay the going rate to see my team play .
Agreed it’s not the same as being there in person but to deny others the pleasure of not watching a favourite team is churlish and short sighted .
Covids here to stay for a long time yet I’m afraid so every revenue stream should be explored , just to ditch it isn’t the answer .

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just like to add... recently ive been spamming score updates on RAB but heres the rub ... this forum appears to work here but in order to provide updates my vpn has to work to listen to the games. on here to get your updates, online commentary comes to me from California (where my vpn puts me) then updates of course comeback via California to england. A lot of digging i went through to get to this position .. can sympathize with Borderbull or any Bulls fan not able to attend but there are still countless bulls fans all over the world (and for what ever reason) cant get any updates or listen (let alone watch).

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I agree with those who argue for streaming

After all, it was only a year or two back the Bulls were at the forefront of arguing FOR streaming. Weren't we the pioneers of streaming live on Facebook - I'm looking at you Mr Gledhill? icon_biggrin.gif

As someone who has very recently moved away from the area, I don't expect to get to many, if any, live games in the future. If I can't watch it via a stream then I'm going to be a supporter 'lost to the game' - which after more than 50 years of being at Odsal is a crying shame.

Come on guys, move with the times!

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Quote: paulwalker71 "I agree with those who argue for streaming

After all, it was only a year or two back the Bulls were at the forefront of arguing FOR streaming. Weren't we the pioneers of streaming live on Facebook - I'm looking at you Mr Gledhill?
The problem between what happened in 2018 and now is that there are no streaming issues regarding League One, so 2018 was only possible because of the lack of rights issues.

As we move from 2021 into 2022 and Sky Sports no longer having a hold on proceedings, then expect this landscape to change as clubs will be forced to maximise all potential revenue streams to try and offset the 40% plus loss of central funding.

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Just out of interest, what price do people feel is a fair price to view the stream? Bearing in mind that one download can be seen by just one individual or by a clubroom full - and of course that the club needs to make money, or at very least, can't afford to lose out. The major problem to me is that once one subscription is paid for no-one can control how it is used/abused.

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Quote: Bulliac "Just out of interest, what price do people feel is a fair price to view the stream? Bearing in mind that one download can be seen by just one individual or by a clubroom full - and of course that the club needs to make money, or at very least, can't afford to lose out. The major problem to me is that once one subscription is paid for no-one can control how it is used/abused.'"

Not sure on an individual basis, but put it this way if the club guaranteed a stream available to all normal season ticket holders I would buy one without hesitation next season. I wouldn't even consider buying a normal season ticket because I know I wouldn't be able or interested in attending every game at home in person.

I guess they would have to trial it and yes perhaps there might be abuse of it in some small way but I'm not convinced people would stop attending in large numbers.

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Ive said how hard it is to get coverage being an expat but ...

for most of us ... im sure we would rather be at a game, being at a game is second to none ( if i had the dough, sure id fly back for every home game icon_smile.gif ), that said many cant so why deny them a live stream and also earn the club money. Just dont deny also the overseas bulls fans as ive found out many of these sevices are IP reliant (dont have a GB/England IP ... cant get access).

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Quote: Bulliac "Just out of interest, what price do people feel is a fair price to view the stream? Bearing in mind that one download can be seen by just one individual or by a clubroom full - and of course that the club needs to make money, or at very least, can't afford to lose out. The major problem to me is that once one subscription is paid for no-one can control how it is used/abused.'"

Yep this is one issue for sure. Have seen reports that the numbers watching games via the streams are exceeding by some margin the number of purchases.

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Quote: MicktheGled "The problem between what happened in 2018 and now is that there are no streaming issues regarding League One, so 2018 was only possible because of the lack of rights issues.

As we move from 2021 into 2022 and Sky Sports no longer having a hold on proceedings, then expect this landscape to change as clubs will be forced to maximise all potential revenue streams to try and offset the 40% plus loss of central funding.'"


Thats sounds like a good argument FOR streaming?

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I guess it depends whether those who might choose to watch it at the local club or pub would have otherwise attended the match, now I am sure there might be SOME that would do that but would it stop the great majority from attending? And for those that might choose to do that, would additional sales to people like myself who can't commit to every game but would very likely buy one if I knew I could watch the stream live or the same evening if I couldn't make the game in person make up for that?

For me, today is a prime example I could have attended and if I had bought a season ticket I would of gone. As it is, I've had a busy week at work and the game slipped my mind in all honesty. I assume I have to pre-purchase a ticket at the moment? It's not something I've looked into as I've had things on since we returned to Odsal, but I might try and sort a ticket for next week against Batley. Going to games is very much a habit and it is very easy to get out of the habit and find other things to do, it is up to the club to make it as easy and as attractive as possible to get people through the gates.

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So, does anyone have a link for an online commentary, since I don't live in the UK? Thanks.

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Quote: bull on a canary "So, does anyone have a link for an online commentary, since I don't live in the UK? Thanks.'"

https://mixlr.com/west-yorkshire-rugby-league
Quote: bull on a canary "So, does anyone have a link for an online commentary, since I don't live in the UK? Thanks.'"

https://mixlr.com/west-yorkshire-rugby-league


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