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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "Is it just me that sees a little square box where this supposed image is?
The replay is clear to me, contact is shoulder to shoulder the force of which rocks O'Briens head onto the shoulder of Scruton. That is entirely different to a shoulder charge making direct contact with the head.'"
No, it's not just you.
I agree with your opinion of the tackle. A still image doesn't tell the whole story, and I think this is a reason it isn't accepted at a hearing.
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| What about the Gilmour head butt on 49 mins.. Six month ban for sure I reckon.
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| Apologies, I can see the image fine.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Which part of O'Brien's body do you suggest Scruton's shoulder is in contact with?
It looks like he in contact with a little box to me.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "What about the Gilmour head butt on 49 mins.. Six month ban for sure I reckon.'"
It's a head clash is it not? However, if the RFL are going to be consistent it is contact with the head whilst making the tackle, and I don't see why it should make any difference whether it is his arm/shoulder/head.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Apologies, I can see the image fine.'"
What's needed are the frames before and the frames after, not a single image that doesn't tell the whole story. These are what would be looked at by the match review/disciplinary panel.
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| Being from nottingham maybe you should support rugby union. Clearly league is too rough for you. Scrutons tackle was a tad late but he had already committed to the tackle before your lad passed the ball, and from the numerous replays on the bog screen it looked perfectly fine with it being just a big hit.
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| Quote: GazzaBull "Being from nottingham maybe you should support rugby union. Clearly league is too rough for you. Scrutons tackle was a tad late but he had already committed to the tackle before your lad passed the ball, and from the numerous replays on the bog screen it looked perfectly fine with it being just a big hit.'"
Unfortunately in Nottingham ice-hockey is the game, which is even more boring than union (just)!
I love the physicality of RL, but it is for this reason that contact with the head needs to be seen as a line in the sand. Over the first few weekends we have seen a numbers of incidents and my fear is that sooner or later someone is going to be seriously damaged and suffer a brain injury if it is not addressed.
Having played at 6 and been the main kicker, I suffered a fair few late head shots that eventually convinced me the game wasn't worth it.
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| Had there been contact with the head do you not think Ganson of all refs would have picked up on that? He would have been itching to dish out a red just as he was itching to dish his yellows out tonight.
The video referee looked again at the tackle and said there was nothing wrong with it. So that is two main officials who have said it was legitimate one of which had a number of camera angles and could slow it down frame by frame. It is only the cas fans who think scruton has a case to answer for?
It was just a big shot and the lad was unlucky to come off worse for wear from it but he came back on in the second half?
I did notice however when your lad went down there was concern from our fans for him and we applauded him when he got back to his feet and in the next 10-15 mins one of your players pushed blythe i think it was into whitehead causing him to boot him in the head causing whitehead to go down which was followed by a load of cheers from your fans, and then the incident with the smoke can..
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| I see club tinted glasses are in full use on here!
Is it a shoulder charge? -yes
Is there any contact with the head? -yes
Is it mis-timed? - yes
Is it reckless as to whether injury may occur? - yes
Is there any malice? - no
Has the RFL set a precedent this season for such "tackles"? - yes
Do I think the incident will be cited and any ban be administered? - no
Are fans from any team capable of being open, honest and even handed in this or any debate on rlfans forums - unlikely!
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| I am not sure how it can be compared to Chase's last week tbh. Chase went in with the elbow. As it appears he likes to quite often.
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| It was nothing like Chase's 'tackle'. Chase made direct contact with Hardaker's head and raised his forearm in the process.
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| Quote: steadygetyerboots-on "I see club tinted glasses are in full use on here!
Is it a shoulder charge? -yes
Is there any contact with the head? -yes
Is it mis-timed? - yes
Is it reckless as to whether injury may occur? - yes
Is there any malice? - no
Has the RFL set a precedent this season for such "tackles"? - yes
Do I think the incident will be cited and any ban be administered? - no
Are fans from any team capable of being open, honest and even handed in this or any debate on rlfans forums - unlikely!'"
So the video ref has club tinted glasses on as well then!!
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| I don't know, has the video ref posted on here?
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| IMO it would have been a fair tackle had O'Brien had the ball, which is the main difference with Chase. However it was still an illegal tackle as O'Brien had passed the ball & Scruton had time to relax the intensity of his tackle but not prevent the impact. I have effected that tackle many times & had it dished out to me. You don't get many chances in a match to line up a player like that & Scruton couldn't resist the opportunity that had just past (or passed). It was not a sending off offence, but would have been 10 minutes if ruled late, so it will be interesting to see what the outcome is if he is referred belatedly.
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