Yes, it's a good idea.

Bullbuilder seems quite close to the club (and with their stated aims probably have to be). For me a separate, independent, entity is the only credible way forward.

Not a loaded question, more an observation, but if by some miracle they got the money, would Bullbuilder (assuming ready willing and able) be even invited? I mean, debt cleared, why would they?

NO they wouldn't. The fans need some sort of representation on the board after this latest shambles, either fully or partly. This way, it can be acheived. And, lets face it, if the worst happened and we did go bust, would a fan-run club be a catastrophic idea with the fanbase and facilities at our disposal?

Wasn't thinking about bullbuilder, rather a group of supporters putting pressure on the current board.

We all know the problems he caused, but surely I wouldn't be alone in thinking Caisley could get us out of this mess looking better than with Hood at the helm?

Just moments ago I had confirmation of a £2,500 donation to the Supporters Trust.

I can get hold of a room in Field House (Bradford Royal Infirmary) next Monday for the proposed meeting.

I'd love for an independent body, with a constituted decision making process etc, try raise approx £500k and then go to the Bulls and take a stake in the club / representation on the board.

Have there been any successful supporter takeovers in UK sport? The only two I can think of are Stockport County ( ) and Ebbsfleet - not the best examples, maybe Lincoln City too.

I just think that the timescales won't allow for such a thing to happen. In two minds about giving some money to the Bulls as things are. I could afford to give £100 or so, but not sure I'd want to see £100 disappear into one big black hole.

If not, then perhaps we should be prepared to start again from a fresh. Unthinkable I know, but it is viable.

A Bradford Northern starting out in Championship 1 run by people the supporters can have faith in the intentions of, and confidence in, sounds far more preferable than a "saved" Bradford Bulls limping along from problem to problem and bail out to bail out year in, year out.

However I only think the first option should be considered after the current club/business goes into administration if there are no takers to try and take the club forward.

I'd come to a meeting on Monday if there is one.

We have an emergency Bullbuilder board meeting tomorrow evening. We need to have that meeting before we can say anything further.

Remember that the Bullbuilder board members are all unpaid volunteers, and are busy people with day (and in some cases half the night as well ) jobs. I'd bear that in mind when suggesting the Bullbuilder should take some action.

IF people are keen on the idea of seeking to do something through a supporters trust, then IMO it would be totally insane to try and set up a new vehicle for that purpose. It takes months, and a load of hassle - been there, done that - and go ask Wakey: they had exactly the same issue. Bullbuilder's constitution DOES allow it to act in the required capacity. But whether Bullbuilder SHOULD take on any such role is, in the first instance, a matter for the BB board and the BB membership. Tomorrow's meeting will doubtless consider all the representations made.

In all this, I am speaking in a purely personal capacity, and not officially on behalf of Bullbuilder.

I agreed yours is a better idea mate.

I'll do everything in my power to help the Bulls whether its directly through the club, through Bullbuilder or through a new group.

None of us have a bottomless pot of cash, or wed have given it to the club already. Giving now and worrying about the future later is exactly the reason we are in this mess. I could pledge, but not afford to give again for a fair while. I'd love to see a new, fan based club, and would support it with my time and some money, but not if the current board are involved. This is 2012 - judgement time!!! We cannot get this wrong!!!! A new club along the lines of FC UNited could be the only long term , sustaniable option!

Is it not a bit too late to be trying to set up a supporters trust now? we need this money by the 6th April, so it seems a bit late in the day to have an initial meeting on Monday?

I could get behind Bullbuilder doing something if they decide to do so after tomorrows meeting, though.

There isn't a cat in hells chance of 500k being raised from "normal" fans in 11 days, unless there is something in the way of a big investment already lined up which, given the way this "pledge" appeal seems to be being marketed wouldn't come as a complete surprise.

For me there needs to be some action taken towards securing a longer term future for Bradford RL which an independent body of people has to take up.