As a bulls fan, there is not one bulls contracted player who has earned or deserves a shot in the England squad, unless there are tonnes of injuries! i might take Burgess along to experience what being in a squad is like, but nowhere near being in the 17!

As Isaac says none of our players are remotely good enough.

What made me laugh was the (if fit) part. That and the fact that it would be the rugby league equivalent of Emile Heskey starting for England.

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Joel Tomkins
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Jonny Lomax
7. Danny Brough
8. Eorl Crabtree
9. James Roby
10. Adrian Morley
11. Jamie Jones-Buchannan
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin (C)

14. Garreth Carvell
15. Paul Prescott
16. Elliott Whitehead
17. Chris Bridge

Peacock - past it, Sinfield - been there done that, Ben Westwood - penalty machine, James Graham - poor by his own standards this year, Michael McIllorum - predictable as seen when Wigan bring him on and lose ruck control, Gareth Hock - Banned and not been good enough... yet, Luke Robinson - maybe if roby was injured.

Joel Tomkins in centre to stop their big centres, boy he can tackle and Elliott Whitehead because in a better team could be unstoppable and Bridge is in good form and can cover 1, 3, 4, 6, 7 (at a push) and 13!!!!!!

But we haven't with O'Loughlin?!

FWIW,

Sam Tomkins
Tom Briscoe
Joel Tomkins
Ryan Atkins
Ryan Hall
Gareth Widdop
Johnny Lomax
Garreth Carvell
James Roby
James Graham
Gareth Ellis
Chris Heighington
Kevin Sinfield

Chris Bridge/Jack Reed
Ben Westwood
Jamie Peacock
Adrian Morley

Roby can play 80, and even if he doesn't Sinfield can go to 9, I imagine Bridge could even do it.

Peacock past it? He's made over 300 m in his last 2 games and nearly 80 tackles! If that's past it then we should be worried about the rest of the squad.

Oh, and Bailey?

Yes, he has improved out of sight in the last 18 months as far as yards on contact goes but there are a few still ahead of him IMO.

I'd go


1.Sam Tomkins
2.Tom Briscoe
3.Jack Reed
4.Ryan Atkins
5.Ryan Hall
6.Gareth Widdop
7.Jonny Lomax
8.Adrian Morley
9.James Roby
10.Jamie Peacock
11.Gareth Ellis
12.Sean O'loughlin
13.Chris Heighington

Subs- Graham, Westwood, Bridge, Crabtree

1.tomkins
2.hall
3.reed
4.atkins
5.briscoe
6.widdop
7.brough/lomax
8.peacock
9.roby
10.graham
11.ellis
12.Heighington
13.oloughlin
subs
14.carvell
15.morley
16.westwood
17.tomkins

Yeaman and Briscoe have to play together, been impressed with them in both attack and defence this year. I don't think we have a better English SL Centre than Yeaman (I include Atkins in this argument)

if a guy can start in the centre for brisbane, he can for england.

Crikey, they've relaxed the criteria somewhat.

My England 17 would be:-

1 - S Tomkins
2 - Briscoe
3 - Shenton
4 - Reed
5 - Hall
6 - Widdop
7 - Lomax
8 - Graham
9 - Roby
10 - Morley
11 - Ellis
12 - J Tomkins
13 - Wilkin

14 - Carvell
15 - Peacock
16 - Westwood
17 - D Houghton

Other squad members:- Wood, Bridge, Yeaman, Brough, JJB, Robinson & Heigthington

Sinfield and O'loughlin no more.

I wouldn't be surprised if Peacock missed out for Paul Wood, who I think has had a very good season at wire, maybe time to move on from Peacock. Also Charnley, Mossop and Welham can't be far away.

I wouldn't be surprised, I would be totally, utterly, completely amazed. Not a hope in hell, thankfully.

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Jack Reed
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Josh Charnley
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Jonny Lomax
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Jamie Peacock (not afraid to be a with the Aussies)
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Joel Tomkins
13. Chris Heighington

14. Luke Robinson
15. Paul Wood
16. Adrian Morley
17. John Wilkin

Surprised you're putting in Joel Tomkins ahead of o'loughlin, lockers is potentially our best player. He'll be 13 for England all day long.