To be honest, I think that if we have over 1K season tickets sold and presumably get a fair few 'walk-ups', then we'll be doing very well in this division. Let's not forget that we've downsized the wages bill by going largely semi-pro so we don't [ineed[/i the same income even if that would have been nice - we're not the 'famous Bradford Bulls' anymore.

If we get past January and then see some encouraging signs over the early season then things may even improve. I think trust is easy to lose and difficult for the club to win back, but if things start going well (smoothly will do for now..) then it's hardly a great commitment for ex-fans to turn up to the odd game and see how it goes. Hopefully we've hit bottom and get better than the 'dead cat' bounce..

This massively is a comment that needs plastering around Odsal. We have no right to anything. Also though it makes you believe the mentality that we are owed something from the rugby gods because we are the Bulls is still there with some saying we will go undefeated!

It's ok saying you're trying to win every game but it's very different to say you will go through undefeated. At the moment we'd need our first choice 17 to go all season fit and in form to have any hope of that and we all know it's not going to happen.

York away in game one is a tough start.

Absolutely bonkers that they're selling season tickets without advertising the gate prices. I was giving then the benefit of the doubt at first thinking that the prices would follow fairly soon after and that they were just eager to get a few early sales... but no. Dilligaf is right, it is very easy to get out the habit of going and you soon realise that you can spend a heck of a lot less on a Sunday and have a great day of entertainment with the family. The early games in the season are usually pretty miserable conditions especially for young families and I would miss a few games due to holiday or work anyway. I'm still far from convinced about the new lot and we surely must be once again spending above our income streams, some full time players on 15-2000 fans each week?

I might get to a handful of games but I can't say I'm particularly excited about the season ahead or future of the club. AC keeps mentioning SL... either he's on another planet or he knows something we don't.

He must be using SL as a mythical carrot on a stick, albeit a million miles away. If he were to suggest we are in it to get to Champ 1, well that wouldn't shift many tickets.

We are, just for all the wrong reasons sadly. I agree that if we have 1.5k-2.0k attendance we should see that as largely positive.

Although I'm not getting a season ticket - at least until I know the pay on the gate price - I hope to be going to plenty of games. I must confess after the loss away at Dewsbury last year I fell out of love with the game (the Keyes incident and Thomas getting chucked into the railings saw to that). Hopefully in 2018 we'll have a decent squad and a decent coach and won't be making up the numbers like in 2017.

I'll be at a few U19 games whatever We have some good uns coming through there.

Well they've done a belting job with the announcements for that final season ticket early bird push haven't they? A player that most people haven't heard of (who most of us can't judge one way or the other) and a "maybe announce the coach on Sunday". That'll have persuaded loads.

I was thinking the same. Some announcements prior to the deadline to persuade the waverers would've been welcome. I'm "absolutley positivley" sure of that.

Madness, is what I'd call it. I can already see these boasts being pinned up on dressing room doors all over league 1 - "Just look what these flash 'Arries think they're going to do". "Well, are you going to let 'em"

Spoken like a true blood and thunder coach.