"He"? All trolls are "It". Any fule kno that.

Perhaps therein lies a small peice of the problem though, the balance between cost and design. The loads from wind and snow might have made any viable cover difficult. I'm just thinking out loud, I might be wrong, but from working in design and build construction, snow can get heavy, especially on inaccessible roofs (rooves?).

Snow can indeed be very heavy, which to be honest, I only know from trying to shovel it clear! You may well be correct.

It used to be rooves (and hooves) when I was at school, though that's not so say it hasn't been "improved" since then....

There is a standard allowance for snow load on roofs. Odsal makes no difference. At it's simplest this is just half of an industrial shed that goes up by the thousand. The sloping site & ground conditions make it slightly more tricky but it is absolute peanuts as a building operation, given that major contractors build multi-storey developments in the middle of major city centres, compared to an empty ground with space for plant & storage.

Reported it many times, nothing seems to be done except when it goes too far and becomes slanderous, then it`s removed and it reappears in a different guise. The T&A is a joke.

Oh really, that's disappointing as ifallwerelikemumby is saying the same. I haven't posted on it in years but it always did have a different 'crazier' tone to it - more funny though and not the stuff you're reporting.

Haven't seen this linked elsewhere yet, sorry if it has been, but in answer to the op question, looks like Nothus was right;

rlSL spot from funding cutrl

"[iMr Sutcliffe insisted the loss of the cash wouldn’t affect its ability to spend up to the Super League salary cap, but told the Telegraph & Argus

So its our penace for being naughty, and a deterrent to others, and placates other clubs who will benefit from a weaker Bulls for the next 2 years.

I also found this article whilst wandering around the web which is a well written piece on the subject;

rlBulls safe, trouble ahead for SLrl


[i"Up until quite late in the piece, it appears there was a fair number of clubs ready to give Bradford the bum's rush.
But by the time the final show of hands was taken, there was only one chairman who felt the Bulls should get the boot


But in the end, the rest decided Bradford should stay.
The most vocal of the majority was St Helens chairman Eamonn McManus.
He too believes Super League should be reduced to 12 clubs, but takes what might be considered a more pragmatic stance.
He points out that under the right ownership, Bradford has a better chance of being a viable commercial entity than most.
To sum up McManus's position, he thinks the Bulls should be part of the elite, even if it was cut to 12.

The RFL's position is a sticky one. They have the clubs that are trying to get into Super League keeping a beady eye on them.

Suppose they stick to their word that a Championship club gets promoted for 2015 AND there is a consensus to reduce the top-flight to 12 teams!

That would mean losing THREE from the current set-up.
In the words of the song – there may be trouble ahead.[/i"


May we live in Interesting Times.....and thank you very much indeed Mr McManus.

If the article is correct then come the next licencing round then either mergers are back on the agenda or the fans of Salford, Wakefield, Cas and maybe those in East Hull should be getting nervous

I still cant work out how a club that previously was losing a shed load of cash and has now had its funding cut, apparently significantly, can still afford to spend up to the salary cap. Not unless the owners were prepared to fund enormous losses or our previous non playing staff salaries were off the scale, which doesn't seem to be the case.

Better management?

So in effect we are getting punished twice?
Not only do we get a 6point deduction this season, we get punished for the next two seasons as well. One rule for Wakefield, etc. One rule for us.

Indeed, to me there does seem an almost inevitable move towards reducing the number of SL clubs, plus the rfl have said (and put in the current operational rules and by laws) that one non SL club will be admitted in 2015, so in a 2015, a possible 12 team SL with the irreplacable clubs plus a current non sl club it leaves us and a few others with some work to do for what could be 3 or 4 spots;

1 Wigan
2 Saints
3 Warrington
4 Leeds
5 Hull
6 Catalan
7 Shuddersfield
8 (non SL club)

9 Widnes

10 Wakefield?
11 Bradford/Hull KR??
12 Castleford/Salford???

I suspect the rugby league landscape will have changed significantly before then though, with some aspect of promotion and relgation brought back at the very least, so any licence considerations now for 2015 might as well be a work of science fiction at the moment.

Bit off a difference between new owners saying full cap is available and actually spending it. according to one of hoods interviews we were 100k under cap last year. Combine that with 17 players leaving should give you an idea of our cap spend so far for next year. Admittedly a lot of the players retained will be at higher end of pay scale but should still be possible to guage how much of cap we're spending when we quality and number of players added to squad in coming weeks. Despite the public comments from new owners can't see us being anywhere near full cap spend next year.

I agree, and just cannot understand why they are saying it. It would be perfectly understandable if they said that we would be spending well under the cap for the next two years. The risk is that people buy their seson tickets, see that the squad is relatively under strength and feel conned.

Other problem we have is we're coming into player market very late this year. Most of quality players will already be sorted. Inevitabily we're going to have sign some average players just to give us squad depth but beyond that do you carry on and sign below average players just so you can say you've spent full cap?. I'd say its better keeping any money available in reserve for any decent players that become available during season, which always seems to happen, rather than filling squad out with dross.