Summed up very well, although most of our tries were actually very good once we managed to hold on to the ball long enough to actually get to the line.

Had Saummut been playing I don't think we would have won as we just don't have the communication or defensive structure (or indeed any structure at all) to cope with a flair player.

Another very disappointing performance. Too much dropped ball early in the tackle count, too many missed tackles, too few ideas.
Saints were, luckily for us, as poor as I have ever seen them. They must have bombed, what, ten tries easily. Yet still we didn't ever look like getting near them.
We are definitely the go to team for getting others season's back on track.

Why are we afraid to get stuck in with the tackles? Why were we happy to sit back and let Saints have all the time in the world on the ball? Where is our in their faces defence?

Donaldson and Sidlow tackled everything that moved, shame we can't say the same for the others.

Lots of our players are carrying knocks that would keep them out if there was anyone fit to come in apparently.

Weeks break has come at perfect time for us TBH. Sammut, purtell and walker should all return for widnes match and manuokafou is a strong possibility too. Plus extra week gives players carrying knocks a chance to shake them off. Didn't think we were a lot of pace this week and defence sounded better. Suspect if sammut had been fit to play we'd have won.

So dire in fact that if we'd have had a little more composure we'd have been 30 points clear at half time. Thanks to tinkerman Brown we fell to bits somewhat in the second half but even then we had enough chances to put the game away but just kept blowing them.

We were not good but we were better than recent weeks and much better than the Bulls today. Got to say though the writing looked on the wall for you guys at times but the effort was outstanding , scrambling defence and never letting your heads go down.

No team that makes 21 handling errors in a match should come away with the two points. Unless they're playing the Bulls, it seems.

Incredible, our completion was 50% apparently. That's shocking. Shows how poor you were considering we still racked up 30 points.

Excuses, excuses. That they're unable to compete with much bigger, more expensive squads compiled over years in a financially stable environments is simply down to their innate human weakness.

I'm happy to have a team to support and we're poop because we don't have any money!

Maybe so that we don't have any money

That's no excuses for the basic mistakes that seem to be costing us each week now,you can't excuse so many errors,if we were bottom of the league you would still expect players to have a certain basic skill level( and no I'm not looking for an argument with you or anybody)

If we were totally outclassed that would be a different thing altogether,but look at saints completion and errors from yesterday

I don't disagree with any of that but I don't think they're excuses. Tiny squad + lack of size and quality = players playing with injuries as Bullseye said and lads who are far from world beaters anyway losing form, making errors and dropping off tackles. An excuse is something that's not really true, whereas I think these are genuine reasons why the best sides are way ahead of us over the course of a season.

I'm with M@islebugs on this one. The point is that for us to win matches against most of the other SL teams requires us to be perfoming at 90-100% of our ability every week, and to be as fit as we can be to do this.

The small, cheap squad is filled with players that other clubs would not or did not want. Only a small number of our suqad would be wanted by any clubs above us in the league. If we drop off at all in terms of performance levels, we get beat. The better teams with bigger squads and more money to pay better players, cna play relatively poorly and still beat us.

If we had an extra 500K to spend, would it be different? Of course it would. If you've ever played the game, you will accept that when you are playing against better quality players, or fitter players, you need to be 100%. when you are trying so hard, you make more mistakes as you are trying to play above your own level. Knock ons occur, fatigue sets in, defence gets ripped apart.

facts of RL life!

We know we are not full of money,and the robbery of the sky money is criminal,but we are not only spending two thirds of the salary cap because of it.

Basic mistakes is the thing I am on about,basic skills should be the least of the players problems

Basic skills suffer when you're fatigued/playing injured against a bigger/stronger opponent.

It's harder to tackle correctly when you're knackered or protecting an injury (see Foster versus Hudds).

It's harder to execute a perfect pass or catch when the defence is on top of you and that's happened a lot when we've been beaten up front due to a lack of props.