I'm sorry. I didn't realise you had been incoming from a distant planet in a state of suspended animation these last few years, and could therefore have no knowledge of what changed. One day maybe someone will have time to go through the history with you.

Agree totally Adey, we cannot see that if the Bulls are relegated out of SL that it will be anything other than, as you say, oblivion!

It takes too long to begin the re birth of anything like the club we have at this moment. Without a substantial sponsor we will not be in the position to re-build anyway.

Agreed and already done, same with all the other teams who have helped our Hardship fund. Let's hope no other club has to go through what we've been through. It's been 6 months of uncertainty and anguish.

That's encouraging for the current clubs who find themselves in that position in the Championships isn't it ?!

So you dont really know either, do you?

Seems to me that pretty much everyone knows, except you.

Saints have recorded losses of £2.4 million in 2011, £1.35 million in 2010 and £940k in 2009.

McManus' support for the Bulls is little more than a Turkey voting against Christmas.

My blame is pinned squarely on the boogie.

Didn't saints recently build a new stadium?

Bet that wasn't cheap!

What do you mean by "recently"?

Losses of £450k in 2008.

McManus has presided over a club that has consistently shown growing losses. These are published facts.

One would assume that his hopes are squarely pinned on the new stadium reversing those losses... a bit like Salford

So put it down in simple black and white on here then

Away you go