I think I'm at the stage where it seems impossible to fix. In times past I used to look at performances and improvements were obvious. The usual "we need to get a 7" or "we need to tighten up the edge defence". Now tackling, catching and passing seem like aspirations beyond the possible.

Now there isn't really a strong area which I can call adequate for us to build around. Any long term plans based around players like Bentley and home grown talent is a fallacy because no matter how many good home grown talents we can deliver I don't see it being possible to keep them long enough to impact the club.

Whilst top teams aren't required to develop talent, we become a feeder club and without funds to develop the squad it's all I can see us being.

We, the fans have been milked for all we're worth (money) this season and the club will continue to be milked too for our academy and the stadium as soon as it becomes profitable.

I see no light or redemptions, the thought of a restructure saving the club turns my stomach as we shouldn't receive special treatment, which to this point those who have seen the RFL's actions towards the bulls know we haven't been given yet.

You got told wrong.

Damn. Then he had NO excuse.

Agreed. I just want us to start in L1 next year, like we should have done this year and try and rebuild.

I think if we are all honest with ourselves this is exactly what we expected to happen when the RFL dithere just long enough to make sure we had no squad.

Yes the ref was bewildering at times and swinton played the best supporting actor role with great aplomb, but we're shot to pieces, Bentley and Sironen had good games but the number of us limping and hobbling is frightening.

Keyes playing when he shouldn't, it's debatable that Peltz should have played. So with him gone and Campbell being dealt with harshly (I'd have said 10 was sufficient), it's no wondered they ran out of steam. I am just stunned they were still giving 110% at the end. Some of 2015/16's show ponies would have sacked it off after 60 mins and gone hiding on the wing...

Only saw a fleeting glimpse of Robinson diving yesterday, but just seen a video on twitter (wobbly headed bull)
My god it's horrendous. Not sure which is worse, the fact he did it or the fact the linesman came running on with his flag thinking it was a penalty

Sorry i don't want to see that stuff on an RL field. I won't hold my breath but he should be banned. It's cheating. Over to you RFL.

I hoped I would never see it in RL but its creeping in,
Football is pathetic and it ruins watching a game.

Some of the tactics been employed by teams i.e diving like the clown in the video, or faking an injury to take the pace out of the game ala Rochdale, need to be stamped out now before the RL ends up like the not so Beautiful game.

Agreed, there's been a few games i''ve just not enjoyed watching because of the nonsense going on (doesn't help we're awful, but i'm use to us being rubbish,i'm a Bradford fan) But it needs stamping out. Unfortunately with the refereeing department looking in crisis, we're getting referees who aren't ready and don't officiate the cr@p that goes on. Straight away yesterday could have been a cleaner game if the referee awarded a penalty when Robinson threw the ball in Tonga's face. He didn't and as a result Swinton just played him like a fiddle.

He should be banned for that. More Monty Python than Swinton Lion

The game yesterday was one of the worst I have watched in 25 years,
as you stated it wasn't just because we are diabolical.

There was never any flow to it, it was start stop and penalty after penalty for the wrong thing at the wrong time.

I dare say if the game was allowed to flow a bit we would have probably come out on top, slightly.
If i'm honest its put me off wasting my time going watching matches.

Yesterdays game should have been a hard fought encounter, with little skill but a lot of "biff" it was in reality shambolic.

Why give them the opportunity to even act like that in the first place though? You can see Sironen lash out at the player on the video. I doubt he even connected and if he did it certainly didn't justify such an ott reaction, but why do it?

You're going to get wind up merchants in this division. I dare say it will be even worse in League 1. Our players need to rise above and not get sucked in by it.

I think we might be coming away from yesterday's game with a ban or two. Swinton might have been grubby but we gave them plenty back. Campbell will get a ban and Scott Moore caught a Swinton player with a really bad high shot in the second half. The sort of tackle that would have caused pages of outcry on here if Josh Barlow had done it.

The referee was as inept as we were, probably worse. I can only assume it's some sick joke by the RFL. Surely, these people have to have SEEN a rugby game before, even if they've never played in one, before they're allowed to referee one? Maybe they didn't have a proper one spare so they asked someone in the pub if he'd mind filling in?

Having done a bit of research, he has done a few games in league 1 and been an ingoal touch judge for a leeds game. Ours was his first game at championship level. Still ridiculous he hasnt done more in the league below before moving up. Refs are getting fast tracked too quickly, there is a mass shortage and nothing is being done on the face of it other than give young refs who havent had time to develop games they arent ready for

The pathetic Sh1te from Swintons number 2, not just the play acting, has no place in the game. Is it any wonder fans are leaving the game ? And the Campbell tackle shouldn't have even been a penalty. No wonder the game is Fvcking dying. It's all right saying we shouldn't do this or that and get drawn in but if we want to watch touch and pass lets all just off to watch Old Brods and have done with it.