The article does not say (inter alia) how soon after the sackings the approach took place, although some will be aware, but regardless of that the above suggests what you are looking for is unlikely?

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... s_loyalty/ Good luck to him. In terms of continuity and avoiding further upheaval it's an understandable decison. No decision yet on back room staff.

www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... s_loyalty/ Good luck to him. In terms of continuity and avoiding further upheaval it's an understandable decison. No decision yet on back room staff.

When I type lover it automatically changes it to lover.

Great for the game if Franny another English Coach in SL. This is exactly what we want. All the best to him. Integrity after this summer never in doubt.

I thought it was consistency? Or consistancy if you are from Wigan.

we've been down the road of an inexsperienced english coach from within before. it didnt work.

It can only work if Franny gets shut of the backroom staff (are they actually employed anyway?) and starts afresh with his people, or people who the club put in with some sort of pedigree of being part of success and/or excellence.

Johh Kear wouldve been good, as would Karl HArrison or Nobby, or even Daryl Powell or MArk Aston. These are all British and relatively toung, albeit vastly more experienced of working to a tight budget and spotting cheap talent tha Fran is.

Having said that, whoever gets the job has my 100% support.

Why?

A lot of people seem to think St Hilaire isn't up to the job. Not sure what they base it on other than he was around when McNamara was in charge and we were playing much worse. Any improvement since much have been down to others then...

Just think that he should be given a chance to have who he wants around him and that we should allow some to leave. He will need an assistant, maybe two. perhaps a chance to bring in a couple of recently retired players or an old head, or one of each. Potter did ok with the current lot but he strikes me as a very different personality to fran!

St Hillaire isnt rated, but we dont know how much responsibilkity he was given by mcnamara as opposed to mick!

By whom?

By the professionals? Or the armchair coaches on here? Serious question, since I am neither.

What's cummins gonna do as he's openly spoken out about players he doesn't rate, players who's careers are over & players he wants out of bulls
But these players still have 1 year contracts left at the club. With only 16 players signed up looks like he's going to have to play the players who's careers are over- Langley Scruton and walker

Because Cummins and LSH doesn't look strong enough. Good blokes I'm sure but the concerns raised by Isaac, Tigs and others about FC not being tough enough aren't eased in any way by the presence of LSH and Barrow.

I wouldn't go so far as to say 'it can only work' if said are replaced but it's a fair concern in the circumstances.

Despite stating he'd like to be a head coach has he ever been rumoured/mentioned in the same breath as a vacancy despite being made redundant?

I'm not saying he's good, bad or indifferent. Just that the attitude towards him within the game is ambivalent.

Where's Cummins said stuff about players he doesn't rate? Got a link? I presume you mean Sykes and Platt? Seems Platt has worked his way back in the reckoning going by the T&A piece last week. I think Wakey will do a deal to get Sykes.

Langley's had a good season for us I reckon. Scruton's had an awful time with illness and injury, not sure if his career is over, I guess we'll find out as he's still under contract.

Are we re-signing Walker? If we do it shows that we are a bit desperate.

This is the 21st century. Being tough doesn't mean being able to chin the players - it means being ruthless, determined and prepared to make tough decision.

I haven't heard enough of FC to make that judgement on him, but you can be certain that size and demeanour are no longer an indicator of the type of toughness required.