When you take a break from winding opposition fans up Mac, your posts are as accurate as anyone on here.

Couldn't agree more.

I did wonder whether last night's performance was on the cards given the build up. When the players came out with their kids I wondered what the idea was there. We started well but the sin binning took the wind right out of our sails. From then on we failed to wrap up the ball in the tackle and couldn't build any pressure due to sloppy handling.

In the end it just spiralled out of control. I was very impressed with Hull's enthusiasm in defence, their line speed was superb and they won every collision. The offloads killed us. If they could play with that enthusiasm every week they'd be real contenders. Shame we caught them red hot. If we'd have played the team that got thrashed at Widnes we'd have been ok.

In the end nobody had a good game. It was the worst display since away at Salford last year. Despite that it was just one game. Performances this season have been th ebest for years so lets not chuck the baby out with the bathwater.

Does Elima normally give that many penalties away?

He had a very poor game and can occasionally go off the rails. He does however win a lot more penalties than he gives away and normally brings a lot to the team with his aggression.

No. He does give 1 oe 2 penalties away, but Ben Thaler has a REAL problem with him. Couldn't wait to blow for dissent against him. He did it last time he refereed us against leeds, that time he got sin binned. Funny how Thaler isn' this keen on the likes of Mcguire, Tomkins etc. I don't mind referees been keen on dissent, but let all referees do it for all teams. Not just particular referees on particular players.

On the Bulls, bad day at the office and very embarrssing, but Hull were red hot. Funny it could have been a completely different game had we scored when Pryce made the break.

Yes! Great player but a very angry man on the pitch!
Will go great at Catalans though

The players take their kids on at the last home game every season - just hasn't been on tv before.

Was anyone else a little surprised at the announced attendance?
All season long we have counted season ticket holders in the announced figure, regardless of whether or not they were actually in the stadium at the time.

So how did they reach a figure of 10k last night, when we have circa 10k season ticket holders and there were a decent amount of Hull fans behind the sticks?

Is it because the club have been fudging the figures all year?

Never 10k there last night.

And people scratch their heads at why you can't pay your bills!!

As with most sporting clubs the attendance announced is the number of tickets sold (including season tickets around 10,200) not the number in attendance. Man Utd do it this way too.

But the point is that being made is that the attendance was given as just over 10,600 - and they were certainly considerably more than 400 Hull fans there

So I can only assume we didn't count all of the season ticket holders for some reason?

I understand that bit. I mentioned it to Adeybull at the match, the announced figure should have been nearer 12,500 IMO.