Just watched the game again and I will now change my view to yes it was a red card but should be sending off sufficent at the RFL hearing on Tuesday as we have paid the price by losing the game.

But watching it in real time live I would never have said "get the red card out Ganson".

I said to the tigress yesterday (showing her the picture after the Cas game) how much you had grown on here (assuming you weren't constantly trolling), this confirms it. I don't think I have ever seen anyone swing to dislodge the ball & miss by 2 feet. As Davies? said, only Raynor knows for sure where he was aiming. As much as Tomkins deserves snotting it was a straight red. A shame that it also distracts from a wonderful bit of running from him.

I hope I don't grow anymore Brian as I already take up two seats on the press bench

In real time, no-one batted an eyelid. Not the Wigan fans at the game, the commentary team, no-one. Not until they watched the replay did everyone start frothing. So without the video=no sending off.

Why didn't Ganson award a penalty for this?

that was a bit of a mystery to me too.

I believe it was because Tomkins actually scored so in effect it wasn't a penalty try (the offence didn't prevent a try being scored).

Say for example if a try had been scored and someone got hit off the ball they wouldn't get a penalty after the try but the offence would be punished by red/yellow card if it was picked up by the ref/linesman.

Does that make sense? Probably not!!

I don't know the rules exactly but the commentators were saying about being fouled in the act of scoring should be an "8 pointer" try.

what you say does make sense though.

Given Raynor has a pretty clean disciplinary record, I can't believe that he had any intention of injuring Tomkins. He was attacking the football, but his timing and Tomkins dive towards the line resulted in an injury.

I think an on report and 10 minutes for Raynor for a careless tackle would have been a fairer call rather than a straight red.

Is what something I am in favour of?
The vast majority of games have no video ref at them so in those Raynor would have been on report as no-one saw it. When it was slowed down so you could see Raynor lining up Tomkins chin as he ran in from 50m away it looked worse.



So Raynor's offense did not take place as the try was being scored? Mmmm. I wonder how much closer you have to be to get the 8 point try awarded.