Do we have a separate defensive coach? Or is Potter managing all aspects of our performance?
If it's LSH that's in charge of defense then the guy has got to go. Now.

Cheer me up, why don't you!


Of course, but I have never suggested the reasons for our current plight are "simple". Anything but. I have never been a "quick fix" merchant and there's no such thing.


Well, who doesn't, but we may already have it, as over time our young players develop (if they're not mullered into craapness by a season of unmitigated tonkings), the only thing I would say is that the best I thought we might achieve is a low-top-8 finish, but with the playing personnel we have, while we would never be top-half material, there really is no excuse why we would be bottom. None. And dress it up whichever way you want (and I have never sought to absolve the coaching staff of their share of responsibility) - we are bottom because of the burgeoning catalogue of lamentable efforts at defence, ball handling and discipline. And apparently (per Potter) we won't talk to each other on the field either.


He does. But I 'm not now sure whether ANY coach could sort these players out. I think they now have to do that themselves.

Pluses - I didn't go, wnet to neighbours barbecue to get ed.
Negatives - antoher emabrassing defeat, the worst team in the league, etc, etc.

Next week is going to be humialtioan. And before anyone slags me, yes we will be there, yes we will be cheering for the lads, adn yes we will go home uopset afetr another ting.

As it stands, we will win no more games this season. Goodbye season. WTF is going on?

I have been thinking of "it could be worse" reasons since teatime, to take my mind off hanging myself.

So, it could be worse: you could be the Bulls' marketing man, being asked to sell tickets for the Wigoon game

Give them away, than at least they might sell some beer.

We're doing that badly that I reckon we might actually beat Wigan next week.

Think you've had enough!!

Well I for one won't be spending £18 for a tacket and £8 for taxis when I can watch the CC game at my local for free.

If that makes me a poor supporter so be it but I'll not be the mug making an effort when the team can't.

Looking at the amazingly sp Bulls section today was a shock.

It was like having Quins as the visitors.

With everyone having to pay normal price next week I expect the home fans to be outnumbered. Really hope I'm wrong.

I won't blame anyone who chooses to do so next week.

It's not like me to duck out and watch a game on TV, but I find it hard to justify shelling out £15 to go and watch us get absolutely mullered next week

I don't think it's hard, really, because I know that the suicidal early part of the week spent whingeing, moaning and wound-licking will lift by matchday and I will end up looking forward to going to the match, - if not to watching it - and hoping (and expecting) that we will have one of the dozen or so good days that the law of averages suggests one day we will.

Defence is about structure, technique and attitude - any one component missing and it goes to cr*p. The normal missing piece when a side ships a lot of points is attitude. Most SL players know how to tackle. They also - whether they have played at the same club for years or are new - will most of the time know where they are supposed to be and what their role is.

Leeds were shipping points left right and centre early season, and seem to have started to defend better only in the last couple of weeks. Peacock's return has made a difference, but the real difference is simply attitude across the side.

You have more than a few leaders at Leeds though. We appear to have very few (if any), which made your predicament a few months / weeks back all the more surprising. Peacock, Buderus, JJB, Sinfield all command the respect of the rest of the squad and will "follow the lead" of such players. I don't think we have anyone with that character at the minute.