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| It won't make anyone feel better but here's another McNamara mistake - Glenn Morrison. The guy's playing out of his skin at Wakefield. Yes I know about the injuries but then in true Bradford style we used him as a battering ram. They're giving him space to run down the flanks and he's busting loose. An early contender for Man-Of-Steel. Glenn Hall ain't fit to lace his boots.
It confirms what we already knew, our style of play is so out of date. Five up the middle and a kick. Rubbish.
I hope this is the week McNamara suffers a serious bout of amnesia and has to learn a different way of coaching. If not I do think the curtain will fall at Easter time. I predict weekend of April 17, Challenge Cup Round Four - when we're humbled by a National League One side. Probably Halifax.
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| I went as a neutral today and have to say that I could not believe how poor you were today, your style of play just does not work, your whole attacking forrmula is the inside ball or barge your way over, anything else attempted is a dropped ball, sorry to say but you are totally clueless near the line and Saints seemed to get bored in the second half and thought they would show you how to do it with 3 attacks and 3 try's. Your coach really needs to step down now and he seems in cloud cuckoo land with these statements after the game......
"There were a lot of things that looked rusty. It wasn't a great performance at all. Maybe it was part of a process we need to go through as a group to get to where we want to get to."
"We weren't at the races. We expected to perform better but there were obviously reasons for that and we need to rectify that."
"I'd like to think we'll sit here in five days' time with a different situation. We'll be strong and stay together, but quite possibly in the long run this process will make us a better team."
How playing like that is part of a process to making you a better team only he knows!!
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| Quote: anarkik "Well you obviously weren't there for the Wire match at home last year, or Wigan away... or...
Got to admit having slept on it I feel a lot better about that performance than the Warrington match last year. Or the Castleford collapse away last year. That was sickening.
What I can't understand was how Leon Pryce seemed to have so much time on the ball. At the time I was convinced it was the ref but being honest we really haven't defended well in the first two matches.
Still we look a lot better in attack just too lightweight and a bit too nice (if you see what I mean) in defence. I think Scruton attempted a big hit but that was about it yesterday. Also the champions have lost their first two rounds too. I bet they beat Crusaders in round 4. It's not how you play in February it's how you played from August onwards that counts. Teams like Wakefield etc are coached to hit the ground running because they know they need to get all the points while they can. Kear has taken this approach for years. Should we be doing the same nowadays? I can't see us being Grand Final material.
Now I've had a decent nights sleep I'm going to say something that will make me pretty unpopular. I don't care about yesterday. It's not really a problem. To me what's most important is how they respond. Friday against Cas it's what counts IMO.
I'm going to give you my opinion on the back line though I think they should line up like this:
1. Kearney
2. Sheriffe
3. Reardon.
4. Nero
5. Halley
6. Sykes
7. Orford
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| I really don't how Macca can re-arrange the team any more to make it work. We could try Kearney at full-back, but Halley has done nothing wrong to lose his place there.
Sykes is not a centre, I suppose we could pout him at stand off.
Reardon for me is not winger or a centre could he be tried at stand off ?
L'estrange offers no more than Wagga two vitually identical hookers why ????
The forwards were average yesterday. Worrincey was ineffective. However, Scruton did stand out and deserved to be recognised.
Ox tried, but how many times was the ball passed behind players ? I think he was expecting the line to be deeper, which I agree it should have been.
And, lastly I'm sorry Sheriffe, not good enough, the high bomb he let bounce near the end summed up the teams entire lack of commitment.
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| Quote: bullsonfire "It won't make anyone feel better but here's another McNamara mistake - Glenn Morrison. The guy's playing out of his skin at Wakefield. Yes I know about the injuries but then in true Bradford style we used him as a battering ram. They're giving him space to run down the flanks and he's busting loose. An early contender for Man-Of-Steel. Glenn Hall ain't fit to lace his boots.
It confirms what we already knew, our style of play is so out of date. Five up the middle and a kick. Rubbish.
I hope this is the week McNamara suffers a serious bout of amnesia and has to learn a different way of coaching. If not I do think the curtain will fall at Easter time. I predict weekend of April 17, Challenge Cup Round Four - when we're humbled by a National League One side. Probably Halifax.'"
Jeffries had another blinder yesterday by all accounts, Wakey's pace at HB is frightening. But Solomona is out injured again, so you never know.
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| Quote: bullsonfire "It won't make anyone feel better but here's another McNamara mistake - Glenn Morrison. The guy's playing out of his skin at Wakefield. Yes I know about the injuries but then in true Bradford style we used him as a battering ram. They're giving him space to run down the flanks and he's busting loose. An early contender for Man-Of-Steel. Glenn Hall ain't fit to lace his boots.
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Its three games in. I don't think anyone wanted rid of Morrison, he is a class act. But he might yet get injured and be out for a long time. Or he might not. You can't blame Macnamara for making that call. If Morrison ends up missing half the season (again) through injury, it was a good decision. If he doesn't then it wasn't.
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| Quote: debaser "Its three games in. I don't think anyone wanted rid of Morrison, he is a class act. But he might yet get injured and be out for a long time. Or he might not. You can't blame Macnamara for making that call. If Morrison ends up missing half the season (again) through injury, it was a good decision. If he doesn't then it wasn't.'"
No, it was probably THE worst recruitment decision since certainly the SL era began, we had a gem in Morrison - albeit one who had some awful luck with injuries - but he is a class act and, much more to the point, a genuine leader of men, something in very short supply. I said at the time it was a stupid, stupid decision. The argument that Morrison was "injury prone" was always bollox, utter, total, and complete bollox. More bollox than the Great Yorkshire Show prize bull. He has never been "injury prone" in his career, and it is annoying that people can't distinguish between being "injury prone" and being unlucky enough to suffer some really horrible but proper injuries.
Missing half the season through a succession of hamstring tears and pull is being injury prone. Breaking your fscking wrist just, well, ISN'T.
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"It may be that the honourable gentleman doesn't like mixing with his own side … but we on this side have a more convivial, fraternal spirit." Jacob Rees-Mogg 21/10/21
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "No, it was probably THE worst recruitment decision since certainly the SL era began, we had a gem in Morrison - albeit one who had some awful luck with injuries - but he is a class act and, much more to the point, a genuine leader of men, something in very short supply. I said at the time it was a stupid, stupid decision. The argument that Morrison was "injury prone" was always bollox, utter, total, and complete bollox. More bollox than the Great Yorkshire Show prize bull. He has never been "injury prone" in his career, and it is annoying that people can't distinguish between being "injury prone" and being unlucky enough to suffer some really horrible but proper injuries.
Missing half the season through a succession of hamstring tears and pull is being injury prone. Breaking your fscking wrist just, well, ISN'T.'"
Sitting on the fence again. Tsch.
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| Since moving to Bicester, it's 2 years since I've been to Odsal. So I was really looking forward to the day even though it would be a 7 hour 350 mile round trip. It was great to be back, but they've not got a clue still.
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| We had a poor game what make it worse is that it was the first home game of the season so all the fickle fans will be of a mind set of “not paying to watch that again”
I believe the players were trying of course they were it’s only the start of the season, St’s had a good defence and we do not have enough plays to cross the line, there were some poor referring decisions which cost us dearly and the breaks that were made by us were followed by poor follow-up and decisions by the players. Our defence was shocking and any team that gets close to our line looks like scoring but we don’t look anything like scoring at the other end.
If Steve Mac cant turn things around soon he will be gone by the end of April, I will give it that long.
I will be at the match on Friday so COOOOOOM on you BULLS
PS i never wanted to get rid of MORROW
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "No, it was probably THE worst recruitment decision since certainly the SL era began, we had a gem in Morrison - albeit one who had some awful luck with injuries - but he is a class act and, much more to the point, a genuine leader of men, something in very short supply. I said at the time it was a stupid, stupid decision. The argument that Morrison was "injury prone" was always bollox, utter, total, and complete bollox. More bollox than the Great Yorkshire Show prize bull. He has never been "injury prone" in his career, and it is annoying that people can't distinguish between being "injury prone" and being unlucky enough to suffer some really horrible but proper injuries.
Missing half the season through a succession of hamstring tears and pull is being injury prone. Breaking your fscking wrist just, well, ISN'T.'"
Hey, don't rant at me. I have never once agreed with the decision to let him go. It was stupid and will come back to haunt us. But he did spend a lot of time injured, through the fact that he always gave 100 percent. Something we are badly lacking. I would still take Morrison for half the games over some of the wasters we saw yesterday. My only point is that if, and its an if, Morrison spends half the season injured at Wakefield, then its not such a bad call. Its still absolutely gutting to see him in Wakefield shirt though.
He gave my daughter an autograph tht other day though and wrote Come on you Bulls under his name. So his heart is still with us! [size(Nothing to do with the fact she had her Morrison 12 Bulls shirt on obviously...)[/size
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "The worst thing that happened today from teh club's point of view is that, having sent the dwindling fans home cursing and disillusioned so many home games last year, some will have come back for a brand new year with revived hopes and what - again, not only do we lose - that's not the point, anyone can lose against Saints - no, we perform in such a way as to make everyone go home really fed up and cursing.
What is it with us - we seem determined never to put in anything at home, and even with a largely new staff, we contrive to pis[size.[/sizes the home fans off no less than if that was the main game plan.'"
As one of those home fans I can only agree. I really didn't enjoy yesterday and don't fancy paying £18 to see it happen again on Friday and have to question why I put myself through it. I know that the 5 people in my group won't be at the Cas game for sure. One has specifically not got a season ticket this year so they could pick and choose games rather than have to endure our awful home performances again.
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| I think most of it has been covered.
We were awful, that's simple. It wasn't the ref or the linesmen's fault, it was ours.
Points of particular concern for me:
1. The crowd. First home game, one of our biggest rivals, new signings playing there first home game, etc etc and yet we pull a shade over 10k. This game 10 years ago (no being on sky) would have pulled 17-18k? I'd guess.
2. Goal line defence. We built pressure in there end with repeat sets and don't score. The first sniff they get up at our end and they pretty much "fell" over the try line.
3. The lack of creativity. The 17 on paper looks pretty damn good (although 2/3 players short of where we'd ideally be). We have one of the best 7's around, yet we never even look like scoring. (I think I'd create more!)
4. The lack of hunger. Especially in defence. Watching other teams go out there, I wonder what is being said to (de) motivate our guys!
5. School boy errors. Some of it's under 11 stuff. Whether you've gelled or not, given the money these guys are being paid, they should be able to pass correctly, catch and keep hold of the ball better than we are.
This was a big difference in the sides yesterday. Saints passing was crisp and clinical. Ours, well wasn't.
6. The pitch. That can't be helping and while I'm having a moan, I may as well get that in!
Things need to turn around pretty damn quick for me. The players we have out there should be doig better, simple as. And as it stands I can only see one reason why they aren't. I hope to god he turns it around.
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| The pitch was good enough for Saints side that's a shadow of previous ones!
If I and many others can see we're stood too flat and players taking the ball stood still or after a 2m run up is utterly ineffective then surely the players can see it too? Saints had runners, options, ran onto the ball at speed and supported each other. All basic RL skills but seeminingly alien to our lot.
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| Quote: Bullseye "As one of those home fans I can only agree. I really didn't enjoy yesterday and don't fancy paying £18 to see it happen again on Friday and have to question why I put myself through it. I know that the 5 people in my group won't be at the Cas game for sure. One has specifically not got a season ticket this year so they could pick and choose games rather than have to endure our awful home performances again.'"
I sort of know where you're coming from, but I know you're a fan, and where will fans be (if at all possible) on Friday? You know it makes sense
Going back a few years I remember being stuffed by Wigan 71 - 10 in a cup match at Bolton, which was sort of an embarrassment (it was on national tv, after all) even though Wigan were the greatest side ever seen up to then. We played them again at Central Park about three weeks later in a match that Wigan needed to win to secure the championship, and IIRC we only took the one coach. I'm glad I went though 'cos we sort of got a moral victory by only losing by fifty odd points (ish). Which errm, sort of just shows that it's best to stick with your team. I think.
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