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To put some context to one of the small group of people booing, one such small knott (and there were plenty of groups of booing but it was still not the majority - the majority were stunned into silence and occational shouts of frustration). One of the guys booing behind me, after a chorus of abuse turned and asked his mate "and why don't we just get big Joe on anymore to get us going?" - idiot. So I"ll take his opinion and duly ignore it.

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Quote: mystic eddie "...

You see, it is the one bonus of watching it on the telly, you get the fuller picture.
It isn't a bonus you ignorant fool, I've watched both, but how you would have any clue about the issue of 'booing in the stand' from the TV only you seem to know, and only an ignorant fool would go to the lentgths of calling someone a liar on an issue to which you do not and cannot actually know the truth, as you weren't there.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "The ground was deadly silent for most of the game. The booing was still in the minority but certainly the most we have heard this season. Certainly around where I was stood, the booing was coming from a largish group of teenagers who didn't look to have a brain cell between them.

I will never understand what they expect their boo's will bring about though. They booed, jeered and shouted and signalled abuse as the players went off at HT. In my opinion, this doesn't motivate players it simply heaps more pressure and causes them to try impossible plays. I couldn't applaud the players last night after the match because it wasn't an acceptable performance... but similarly I couldn't boo MY team.

I spoke to a bloke before the Leeds game, one which I was fully expecting us to lose. We were chatting about the unfair boo's of Platt as his name was announced. I thought his comments summed it up well 'Platt might be crap, but he still plays for my side so the supporters should get behind him'.'"


icon_eek.gif I disagree. Everyone pocketed around Odsal will all have different views on how much booing was going on etc so we're never really going to know - as it all seems to be relevant as to where you were standing and sitting.

I was in the section just infront of the box the coaching team use. It was pretty hostile there, with the majority in each bar section jeering and booing with a couple of people abusing the booers and generally having a view of it's not Maccas fault (they were really in their minority).

Just a note that is off topic, but it got to a stage where the crowd in our section were watching the coaching box with the highlight of the night being Paul Deacons face as he struggled to shut the box window, he was so confused as to why it wouldn't shut. icon_lol.gif

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Are we back on the people shouldn't boo topic based on a "minority" of fans booing.

I'm sorry guys but there was plenty of booing, plenty of people walking out and plenty of negative feeling towards the coach.

To try to dismiss the booing as a minority or from fans who are clearly clueless is wrong. Some people need to wake up and see what was happening, I posted last night that we on here are the minority and the majority spoke last night...it was pretty clear to me and seemed to be coming from all areas of the ground, the "we want macanara out" chant came from the seated stand and I heard it loud and clear from where i was stood.

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Quote: Cibaman "I thought the booing of Platt when he had scored was fairly pathetic.'"


Seconded. A really well thought through tactic to improve his performance, wasn`t it.

I`d like to ask the deluded fools who booed the team to tell us just when booing ever improved anything? Of course, you`ve paid your brass and if you want to boo then go ahead. It`s your right, after all. I`m not going to suggest that these people aren`t `real supporters because they patently are but it only makes things worse since no player ever got better by being booed.

It`s a fair cop. The quality in the side, particularly the backs, isn`t what it was but the lads who pull on the shirt are doing their best, they might not be Big Les , TV , Shonny or Mick Withers (and the reasons for this are a separate issue), in fact there`s no argument, they`re not, but Booing?? It`s going to turn them all into superstars is it?

I`d guess that right now the team`s confidence is really low, still never mind, all the boos will have really lifted the squad, the booers must feel very proud.

In my view, as a supporter, at the game I support everyone who pulls on the shirt (I do mutter under my breath from time to time, I`ll admit to that) and that goes from the head coach down to the ball boy, whatever I write on here or elsewhere, at the match the support is unequivocal.

The reason for that is not that I don`t recognise the shortcomings, because I can see plenty, nor is it because I`m somehow deluded enough to think everything in the garden is rosy because it isn`t, no the reason is I want the team to be the best it can be, to play the best rugby it`s capable of playing and to reach the highest position it is able to. I reckon the best way to do that is to cheer them on.

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Quote: Bulliac "Seconded. A really well thought through tactic to improve his performance, wasn`t it.

I`d like to ask the deluded fools who booed the team to tell us just when booing ever improved anything? Of course, you`ve paid your brass and if you want to boo then go ahead. It`s your right, after all. I`m not going to suggest that these people aren`t `real supporters because they patently are but it only makes things worse since no player ever got better by being booed.'"


I booed to show my dissatisfaction with the performance, my dissatisfaction with the coach and to show that something needs to change.

I'm not sure i'd class myself as a deluded fool, but I'm not going to sit there whilst the club crumbles before my eyes and clap them off. I know the players are down and unfortunately I don't have a mouth which directs the "boos" direct to McClueless's ears. The club is bigger than one man and he needs to walk or be pushed, the aim of the boo is to show that fans are unhappy....or are we expected to print these discussions off and hand them to Mr Hood and Steve to show our dissatisfaction?

It doesn't make me big or clever that I booed but regarding the question, what did it ever change...hmm well i guess some would argue that on occasions it helped move a coach/manager on.

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Quote: Paul124897 "icon_eek.gif I disagree. Everyone pocketed around Odsal will all have different views on how much booing was going on etc so we're never really going to know - as it all seems to be relevant as to where you were standing and sitting.

I was in the section just infront of the box the coaching team use. It was pretty hostile there, with the majority in each bar section jeering and booing with a couple of people abusing the booers and generally having a view of it's not Maccas fault (they were really in their minority).

Just a note that is off topic, but it got to a stage where the crowd in our section were watching the coaching box with the highlight of the night being Paul Deacons face as he struggled to shut the box window, he was so confused as to why it wouldn't shut.
Well it didn't sound or see like the majority to me. But as I said, certainly the most we've had this year.

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I dont really see why some people see booing as a big taboo?

If you are disatisified then you boo or leave or shout things. Simple really, you pay your money.

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Quote: Ajw71 "I dont really see why some people see booing as a big taboo?

If you are disatisified then you boo or leave or shout things. Simple really, you pay your money.'"


Spot on.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "As another person who was sat in the said stand, the reaction was exactly as Adey has described it. If you really are arrogant and conceited enough to claim he is lying from your vantage point in Scotland, then I suggest you see a specialist about your head.'"


I sit infront of Adey and he is infact 100% correct but still ME will be in a better place to comment sat in fornt of the telly cheering his team on!

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Quote: eddievan "I sit infront of Adey and he is infact 100% correct but still ME will be in a better place to comment sat in fornt of the telly cheering his team on!'"


In fairness to ME..

You're sat in a stand with crowd noise around you. That means you hear less of what is going on in other parts of the ground due to your mind focusing on what is going on in the immediate surroundings (ie.. Main stand).

Now, the SKY cameras will be over the Popular Stand and would be able to pick up the immediate crowd noise. I haven't watched the match replays, but for the boos to be noticed on the television, they'd need to be a certain amount of people booing at a certain noise level for it to be noticed on the television so it most definitely was going on for it to be recognised on the television.

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With the crowd so quiet and shell shocked as last night, a group of 15 booing would be heard on the television. Obviously it was more than that booing but you see my point. Perhaps 25% would be a more than fair guess. I'd imagine it was less than that though. Although I don't suspect the exact numbers is really that relevant, we're all unhappy about our current form.

However can some of the 'boo boys' explain what they expect their boo's to do? Do they expect the player's to lift their game under a chorus of boo's? If a supporter really feels the need to boo then I believe it should be left until the final hooter, certainly booing during the match and shouting abuse at coaching staff in boxes is counter productive to my mind.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "With the crowd so quiet and shell shocked as last night, a group of 15 booing would be heard on the television. Obviously it was more than that booing but you see my point. Perhaps 25% would be a more than fair guess. I'd imagine it was less than that though. Although I don't suspect the exact numbers is really that relevant, we're all unhappy about our current form.

However can some of the 'boo boys' explain what they expect their boo's to do? Do they expect the player's to lift their game under a chorus of boo's? If a supporter really feels the need to boo then I believe it should be left until the final hooter, certainly booing during the match and shouting abuse at coaching staff in boxes is counter productive to my mind.'"


Again, I'm confused. It wasn't quiet in the area I was stood in - it was infact quite lively with a lot of noise - but again, it stems to which section of the ground you were in, and of course having no roof. icon_confused.gif

I'm sure RER would back me up on that one as I think he was stood nearer the back than I was.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "However can some of the 'boo boys' explain what they expect their boo's to do? Do they expect the player's to lift their game under a chorus of boo's? If a supporter really feels the need to boo then I believe it should be left until the final hooter, certainly booing during the match and shouting abuse at coaching staff in boxes is counter productive to my mind.'"


I posted above why I Booed,

Did i expect the team to lift their performance because i booed...no

Counter productive it may be, but how else are we supposed to show our dissatisfaction. I appreciate doing it isn't to everybody's taste but neither is walking out before the end (the earliest i saw a family leave was after 20 mins!!!) We all show our dissatisfaction in different ways, doesn't make them right or wrong.

I didn't boo lightly, it was the culmination of performances over a long period of time.

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Quote: Northern Lad "I posted above why I Booed,

Did i expect the team to lift their performance because i booed...no
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Isn't lifting your side what being a supporter is all about though? Like I said, if you REALLY feel the need to boo, then isn't it better left until the game is finished?

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