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| Quote: GUBRATS "Not suggesting running the club , but having a voice and a controlled contribution '"
What the heck does that mean?
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| Quote: GUBRATS "Not suggesting running the club , but having a voice and a controlled contribution
I'd suggest that essentially you are now redundant , an academy is basically pointless now and for the near future'"
"A voice"? How quaint! You mean, an unpaid representative sitting in the corner and being ignored?
"Controlled contribution"?? What, the supporters have a secret stash of millions, which they will only drip feed to the owners on strict terms? Are you making this up as you go long?
Without an academy, I see no future. On a wider point, if clubs aren't going to attract youth into the game and nurture it through academies, I don't see the point in the game. And neither, I suspect, will Sport England.
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Ah! That's why nobody came the last time! Wrong era. Everyone was expecting Sweet and the Bee Gees.
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| Quote: bullsonfire "There will be no bidders with rugby at heart with any money. There may be bidders with land and development opportunities at heart with some money. Neither scenario will end well.'"
I agree, the people who will want the license most want it for the lease and aim to develop the site.
The best case scenario is that somewhere in the discussions with the RFL they sign up in blood to a level of funding for the club which gives us a chance of going forward.
The worst case scenario is someone buys it for the rugby side thinking they can make money!!!
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| Quote: Block5Bull "Rather than have a season out of it, why not give it a shot in the Championship while recognising that relegation is almost certain. Accepting this it gives a year of running a rugby club, learning, raising funds and partners, in order to hit C1 in 2018 in much better position off the pitch, ideally have a plan for developing Odsal for some use beyond rugby league which in the long term is the only viable way to fund the club and with a plan to get back to the Championship in 1-2 years and SL in 3-4 years? The key thing is having a plan
That's what I'd be thinking. The money isn't there to meet fans' expectations, so fans' expectations have to meet the money....'"
Excellent post with clear thinking. Let the dust and disappointment settle and then come up with a workable plan that gives us hope.
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| Quote: GUBRATS "Not suggesting running the club , but having a voice and a controlled contribution '"
To clarify, when I said an interest in running the club, I meant on any level. Even just as a member of the club's board or any kind of small control at all. It was very much not part of the intention.
Quote: GUBRATS "I'd suggest that essentially you are now redundant , an academy is basically pointless now and for the near future'"
Also to clarify, I'm only a member of the trust now and haven't been on the board for years. The nearest affiliation I now have is having a chat to a couple of the current board members if I bump into them, as the ones I know are very good people with the right intentions at heart.
As Bullseye has rightly said, a lot of the sort of fans you need to do this kind of thing are people like him (and a lesser extent myself). Those who are willing to give up their time and resources. Unfortunately most of those people have been there and done it in the last 10-15 years and are burnt out.
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| Quote: bullsonfire "There will be no bidders with rugby at heart with any money. There may be bidders with land and development opportunities at heart with some money. Neither scenario will end well.'"
We need a combination of the two..
Most importantly though sell to someone that has experience of running a successful / functioning Rugby League club.
Something we haven had since Caiseley and Co.
any bidder would have to show the RFL they can finance the deal to a positive outcome surely?
Madjeski was mentioned with Irvine before, if he is in to develop Odsal and invest the jobs a good 'un
If we were to start and go bust a gain we would embarrass the sport even more, the RFL will have to make the right choice this time.
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| Quote: DemonUK "Blimey they are cutting it fine by the looks of this
They're not and that's why it's doomed.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark ""A voice"? How quaint! You mean, an unpaid representative sitting in the corner and being ignored?
"Controlled contribution"?? What, the supporters have a secret stash of millions, which they will only drip feed to the owners on strict terms? Are you making this up as you go long?
Without an academy, I see no future. On a wider point, if clubs aren't going to attract youth into the game and nurture it through academies, I don't see the point in the game. And neither, I suspect, will Sport England.'"
Better than a paid representive
Not millions no , but right now unless you get somebody with a couple of million to burn then any money will have value
It isn't the pro academies that produce the players , it is the amateur community game , those players won't suddenly not exist
I'd say it's time to calm down a bit , I expect to see in the next few days a bidder with enough cash to see out the season , but plans made now will become vital in 10 months time when RL in Bradford has to decide its future
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| I can understand being against people getting their hands on the land but isn't that exactly what Tesco were going to do? What would be the difference in having a super market next to a stadium v a bio-power generator (though that may smell better than a super market v a giant (but empty) costa and a giant (but empty hotel). Here's your stadium (with the RFL headquarters in it you can charge them buggers now), sort yourselves out, we have the land we need and here's a bit of cash to get you going...don't bother us again...
Anyway I've given up, I paid for my STs before admin on my credit card so I am going to spend my days trying to get my £500+ back...
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| The only tiny slight minute glimmer of hope in this is that someone with money didn't want to pony up the best part of £1m to Marc Green because he is a shyster, but that they'd happily spend it on the club/small creditors etc. It's obviously a pipedream, but hey, it's all I've got...
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| Quote: bowlingboy "We need a combination of the two..
Most importantly though sell to someone that has experience of running a successful / functioning Rugby League club.
Something we haven had since Caiseley and Co.
any bidder would have to show the RFL they can finance the deal to a positive outcome surely?
Madjeski was mentioned with Irvine before, if he is in to develop Odsal and invest the jobs a good 'un
If we were to start and go bust a gain we would embarrass the sport even more, the RFL will have to make the right choice this time.'"
Where are the guys Frank was talking about, they don't have any legacy debts now, and if they gave lots of money to invest, we should be more attractive in the long run, planning for building a strong squad/club to get us out of C1 in 2018.
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| Quote: Bullseye "Ah! That's why nobody came the last time! Wrong era. Everyone was expecting Sweet and the Bee Gees.'"
Difficult. Several of them are, er, failing to fulfil their wellness potential.
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