I would swop Gareth Raynor for my M.Platt.What do you think

I don't see any great improvement by bringing in Thorman to be honest. We have enough poor defenders as it is without recruiting another one. He's another inconsistent type who can play a blinder one week but be shocking the next. I'd like to think we could at least bring in one creative play with some proven quality at the highest level.

Deacon certainly isn't inconsistent.

I wish he was..

I agree there are better out there. However if it's a choice between just two half backs at the club, or two half backs + Thorman, I'd take the latter option. We've had two seasons recently with only two recognised half backs, and all we've seen from it is at least one of them in very poor form and still getting picked every week no matter what.

Competition helps, even if it's mediocre.

I see where you're coming from but I'm getting a bit depressed with too many 'short term' signings. The way I feel today, I'm already writing off next year already! I hope we receive some positive news in the next few weeks, something to lift the gloom that is hanging over most fans right now.

While Thorman would offer cover, it's not cover that is the real priority.

What we need is quality.

We need quality at halfback (either stand off or scrum half), and loose forward. If Newton goes we definitely need a quality hooker. Godwin may be willing but he's not good enough to be No1.

We also really need some quality in the backs. Don't really care where but at the moment we have nobody in the backs who is a genuine threat to the opposition or who could get us out of a sticky patch in a game.

Same here at this moment in time there is no sign of the gloom being lifted if anything it appears to be getting gloomier.

Indeed - the decline is ridiculous.

What I want to know is why the club are not quite so keen to make any statements about things at the moment?

The fans' forum just proves that you can fool some of the people, some of the time but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

What are you trying to say I've been fooled.

I can't say I bought into the things said at the forum. It was all hot air to me. Like everything that has come from the Bulls in the past 2 years.

I can remember Macca claiming he was sick and tired of people talking about Bradfords demise, yet months later he has done nothing to halt the demise and we are now further in to it.

He's got to go, it's as simple as that.

Not at all RER.

What I am getting at is that from the reports I heard about the event is that the club cleverly tried to divert attention away from the current situation by talking up this "Building for the Future" stuff and the much lauded Paul Medley speech.

Given the reactions of some (again from reports), this tactic seemed to work and people took some comfort away from the evening and whereas the club should have faced some tough questions from angry fans, they were probably quite delighted that their clever tactics went down so well.

If we carry on like this there will be not much of a future at Bradford RLFC and how they managed to deflect the fact of how badly we are playing at the present by talking about things that might not even happen is a bit of a mystery to me.

3 x as many cops its up to the clubs not the police the clubs have to pay for the policing

I know but the police can stipulate how many officers they want at the ground.