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Quote: Lucky Luke "I couldn't see a problem with what Diskin said. He expressed an opinion on the last minute penalty but did not personally attack the ref. His views on officials having too much impact were expressed in general terms and the main point he made was that players wanted refs to let the game flow more. Thought he spoke well and considering the situation his comments were well judged and well made.'"


thats just complete nonsense. He was all het up about the decision and his comments were about that. He even went on to justify his comments by saying that Lynch had a right to turn and run in the direction of the ball, so he was clearly talking about that incident. Diskin was wrong about the incident, and wrong to say what he did. As fans we can say it and the ref was pretty poor with a multitude of errors going in the favour of both sides.

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Quote: ex Bull Dog "ok but I did also say I didn't think Gaskell was punched.

In terms of timing I don't have a problem with Wilkins hit as Ive seen a lot later not given. What I'd like to see again is where and how he struck Herbert'"


Led with the forearms right into Herbert's mush. Late, high should have got 10.

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Quote: Hartster "Led with the forearms right into Herbert's mush. Late, high should have got 10.'"


Yep, that's about spot on.

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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that. [/quote] Another classic: [quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban. Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player. Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666 0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match". Therefore ZERO.[/quote] Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg



Quote: tigertot "It is very rare someone who drops the ball & gets flattened gets a penalty. It's RL karma. Like a number on here, watch the highlights & then admit you were mistaken.'"


Oh ok then.

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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that. [/quote] Another classic: [quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban. Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player. Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666 0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match". Therefore ZERO.[/quote] Give the girl her dummy back.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_18821.jpg



Quote: Hartster "Led with the forearms right into Herbert's mush. Late, high should have got 10.'"


If that happened he'll get a ban and rightly so.

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Quote: Don Brennan "If that happened he'll get a ban and rightly so.'"


Amen.

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Quote: Don Brennan "If that happened he'll get a ban and rightly so.'"


only it didnt.

Wilkin hit him about a nano-second after he had kicked the ball and was commited. The hit itself was also legal.

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Quote: darnoc "only it didnt.

Wilkin hit him about a nano-second after he had kicked the ball and was commited. The hit itself was also legal.'"


Committed? To what? Wilkin didn't attempt to charge down the ball, didn't attempt to effect a tackle. He hit him late and led with his forearms around the shoulders and chin.

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Quote: Hartster "Committed? To what? Wilkin didn't attempt to charge down the ball, didn't attempt to effect a tackle. He hit him late and led with his forearms around the shoulders and chin.'"


he charged the kicker and was fully commited. There was nothing wrong with what he did provided he didnt forearm him in the face, which he didnt do. It was no worse than What Hoffman did to Gary Wheeler which had all the Saints fans up in arms but when looked at in the cold
light of day ny the disciplinary panel they found nothing wrong with it. You can do that. Its only a late illegal hit if you hit the guy, after the ball has gone when you knew the ball had gone and could have pulled out of the hit. Wilkin couldnt have done that.

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Don't worry. Wilkin was aiming for the ball. Everything else is irrelevant for your average impartial Bulls fan, even if he had caught him on the jaw.

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Quote: tigertot "Don't worry. Wilkin was aiming for the ball. Everything else is irrelevant for your average impartial Bulls fan, even if he had caught him on the jaw.'"


Yet he missed the ball by a country mile and elbowed him in the face. So lets see....reckless tackle...2 match ban?

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Quote: bewareshadows "There was so much edge stuff from players that could have gone either way. If he had penalised for every hand in the tackle. Not 1 set of 6 would be completed and we would all be on here bleating how the ref has ruined the game.'"

That isn't true though is it?
Players aren't stupid and they adapt behaviour when necessary to gain the most benefit. ConsiderIF[/i the ref does give a knock on, this shows that the practice works and will only result in it being repeated.
Scenario 2: Player puts hand in and the ref gives a penalty. This gives the direct opposite outcome to what the transgressor was hoping for, thereby showing that the idea of putting the hand in isn't a good idea so it is less likely to be repeated.

So the likely outcome would more probably been that the penalties would have nipped the 'hands in' in the bud, rather than every set would have had a penalty.

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Quote: Bulliac "That isn't true though is it?
Players aren't stupid and they adapt behaviour when necessary to gain the most benefit. ConsiderIF[/i the ref does give a knock on, this shows that the practice works and will only result in it being repeated.
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Exactly. In the same way if you only get back 8m at the ptb and just stand ever so slightly not square and not get penalised then you keep going. You get pinged everytime, you stop.

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Quote: debaser "Yet he missed the ball by a country mile and elbowed him in the face. So lets see....reckless tackle...2 match ban?'"


You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.

Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.

Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666

0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".

Therefore ZERO.

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Quote: debaser "Yet he missed the ball by a country mile and elbowed him in the face. So lets see....reckless tackle...2 match ban?'"


If he got him in the mush it's >2 matches, although I'd give him 8 for being a sh it. Though it will be a joke & a disgrace & all the review panels bias. One rule for Saints, one for the rest.

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