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| Quote: redeverready "This is the a system which allowed Wakefield to stop in super league by winning 3 of 26 games against fellow super league teams lets all remember this.'"
Would you have been complaining about the system if we have gained promotion despite finishing SECOND in the championship. End of day we had full strength, Wakey have been a mess on the field all season as well in the lead up to this game,they had 2 key men sacked and some injuries.
The systems isn't perfect by any stretch. For me increasing the salary cap for the championship clubs and bringing te signing deadline forward would improve our chances. But we took advantage of the signing deadline just as much as Wakey.
Also the salary cap had being mentioned a lot. End of the day we've had a number of players been given no opportunity this year. Davies, Tahraoui, Brook, Walshaw. The list is endless. Yes we had less to spend than others. But Jimy didn't use what we had to good effect and we ended up with an incredibly poor bench because we didn't give others a chance earlier in the year. I doubt Tahraouri Davies and Walshaw would have had as little impact as Crossley Lauaki and JPB today. Yet Jimmy decided who was undroppable and who wasn't getting a crack to impress early on!
I don't believe we will go PT I think that's Jimmy throwing the toys out of the pram. However I think SL clubs will pick some of our star players off. Annoying thing is, if Gaskell O'brien etc go, we've just let 3 young players in Adam Broom Nathan Conroy and Sam Bates go. Feeling very deflated tonight!!
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Would you have been complaining about the system if we have gained promotion despite finishing SECOND in the championship. End of day we had full strength, Wakey have been a mess on the field all season as well in the lead up to this game,they had 2 key men sacked and some injuries.
The systems isn't perfect by any stretch. For me increasing the salary cap for the championship clubs and bringing te signing deadline forward would improve our chances. But we took advantage of the signing deadline just as much as Wakey.
Also the salary cap had being mentioned a lot. End of the day we've had a number of players been given no opportunity this year. Davies, Tahraoui, Brook, Walshaw. The list is endless. Yes we had less to spend than others. But Jimy didn't use what we had to good effect and we ended up with an incredibly poor bench because we didn't give others a chance earlier in the year. I doubt Tahraouri Davies and Walshaw would have had as little impact as Crossley Lauaki and JPB today. Yet Jimmy decided who was undroppable and who wasn't getting a crack to impress early on!
I don't believe we will go PT I think that's Jimmy throwing the toys out of the pram. However I think SL clubs will pick some of our star players off. Annoying thing is, if Gaskell O'brien etc go, we've just let 3 young players in Adam Broom Nathan Conroy and Sam Bates go. Feeling very deflated tonight!!'"
I've said the system has been flawed all year so yeah I would have. What did Bradford and Sheffield do in the middle 8's that Wakefield failed to do.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "Gutted you lost would have been great to have you back. With hudds and cas decent leeds would have had a ''big game'' to look forward to nearly every week.'"
Hahaha i didnt write dude so unlucky
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| Feeling very deflated this evening.
Not because of all the stuff about salary cap differences and weighted systems, but because I really felt that we could and would have won today if we'd played to our potential. Wakefield were there for the taking, and we simply didn't play well enough on the day, No point in blaming the ref, the RFL or whoever - on the day we came up short.
And that's the most disappointing aspect - because I doubt we'll get a better cane, Surely Wakefield can't be as bad next year, and there isn't another SL club that looks like dropping to that level anytime soon. Then you've got to factor in moneybags Leigh with their flexible salary cap. What odds would you get right now that next years Million Pounds Game will be Wakefield vs Leigh?
We won't go part-time, but I suspect we'll lose a few key players and part-time in 2017 must be at least a reasonable probability.
Difficult to think anything other than 'we blew our one shot at it'...
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| All it takes is for us to implode in the 8s one season like Leigh did this time around and this club is f*cked. There's no way we could stay full time in this league with £500k funding or whatever it is Leigh are getting next season.
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| Do you all understand why Derek Beaumont is so vocal now? Welcome to the championship, again.
On the plus side there are some great games in the comp.
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| Let's be honest if we were still in Super League we wouldn't give a rat's about the teams in the Championship. We are in this league through the failure of previous administrations and we stay in this league through the one decision Marc Green got wrong - signing Jimmy Lowes as coach.
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| People are saying Wakey were there for the taking - correct.
People are saying we didn't play to our potential - correct.
I say the answer to why we didn't win is by looking back and being honest about how we have played in most games this season. We have been awful. The players have been lethargic. They appeared to be "not up for it" on too many occasions.
Where does the blame lie - Jimmy.
Who needs to make the correct decisions now - Mr Green.
We won't go part time as fans won't pay top prices for a part time club.
Fans won't pay again for the same again.
Please Jimmy, admit you have failed to get the best from 33 players - walk and let the club bring in a new face.
Thanks for your playing memories but you are a poor motivator of players so please leave.
Mr Green needs to take him aside and tell him to shut up before he drags our reputation into the gutter.
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| I have to say Lowes comes across much like Webster did for us.
Technically good but always seemed to have a negative slant on his words and his body language. It definitely affects the players in the long term. Brian Smith can be negative but does it to take the pressure off the players rather than adding it.
It's poor form to argue about incidents in the game when you have won so am not here to do that.
I am here to wish you luck for the coming season. I hope you can keep the core of your team together and add where needed so you can come back strong. (Front row is where I would improve but I haven't seen as much as you).
Your fans were a credit today in emotional circumstances, as were your players on the whole. No penalties for foul play either way and even the head highs were just sloppy tackles.
I'm sure we'll meet in the 8s next year. Hopefully not in the MPG again but we'll see eh.
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| Quote: dixie " Another pointless pre-season next year until the middle 8s. Dunno how you sell that one.'"
You should have tried being in the Championship for all those years under franchising when the SL drawbridge was well and truly up. Year after year of playing for nothing with no end in sight. This system at least gives a glimmer of hope although I think the past 2 months have shown just how big a task it will be for a Championship team to bridge the gap.
As has been said, raising the cap for Championship clubs and moving the signing deadline will be a good start in leveling the playing field. The lack of intensity is a harder problem to solve. Hard for a team to get that ruthless streak and the ability to grind out a tough match when you are blowing teams away with ease most weeks. Can't just switch on that sort of form come the middle 8's.
See you next year Bulls fans
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| Quote: woolly07 "People are saying Wakey were there for the taking'"
We've been there for the taking all season. Still Super League next season. Don't hate the team, hate the game.
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| I always thought any promo or relegation should be taken over a 3 year period, ie if you finish bottom2 out of three your down. if its 3 clubs involved its on points. No play off needed. it also gives a club the opportunity to build in season 3 .
I would also make all transfers and signings after the seasons finished.
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| At the end of the day we lacked the craft to unpick a solid Wakey defence. That said we fought hard and gave all, which is all anyone can ask.
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