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Thought we played the second half as though too many of the players had booked holidays for the first week of the play=offs.

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I was sure that we had grounded the ball in goal for what was given as the Catalans 1st try. Or was I seeing things? icon_stupid.gif

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Quote: Flip Flop "I was sure that we had grounded the ball in goal for what was given as the Catalans 1st try. Or was I seeing things?
No! I was sure Kear grounded it first but given the lack of protest by the players I thought it must have been ok. Would like to see it again on video.

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We were not allowed to take a quick tap for reasons that were not clear to me! Then why were Catalan allowed to take a quick tap when one of their players was still clearly offside?
Oh and why were the bars behind the stand shut again?

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No expert here but regarding the quick re-starts it is my understanding that if a player takes the ball on the full HE can have a quick re-start providing all his players are behind 20 yd line. If a player allows it to run dead no one can re-start quickly until defence line especially is set. This was the reason today, we let two balls roll dead, quite rightly but we couldn't take a quick tap. Cats defused two bombs and the player catching the ball can take quickly if his players are on side.

I think this is correct and could make some peoples criticism if Bentham wrong in this regard, as this seemed to be a big gripe. FWIW I thought the sin binning of Kearney was probably correct all things being equal

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Quote: Bullseye "
Some observations

1. I'd like to see the challenge on L'Estrange again as it looked a bit late and a shoulder charge.
2. Amazing to see not one offside at the PTB or scrum with both sides stood offside all afternoon. Does this rule no longer apply?
3. Does the flop rule no longer apply either?
4. Someone should tell Leon Pryce how to be gracious in victory.
5. Henderson is a world class whinger.

I thought most of the team had good games. We missed L'Estrange after he got taken out.'"


Yes and regarding point 4 Price exerted more effort in celebration than he did the other 80 mins. Glad we did not sign him when it looked like we had a chance last year. He is lazy and slow most of the time. Loved the Lulia try when he brushed passed Whitehead. Sammut had one of his off games he`s either brilliant or rubbish

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Think the issue with Sammut was most of his minutes were in the 2nd half when the pack couldn't get on top and we were in our own half.

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Quote: Bullseye "I thought we had done enough to win at 22-16 up with 11 mins to go to win but we blew it a bit. Sure, we didn't get the rub of the green in anything from the ref but our inability to close the game out cost us. Our start to the second 40 mins was predictably slow and we let a crucial soft try in. The sin binning was probably justified but I didn't think it had a massive influence. In the end we lost it up front where we lacked the size in the pack to compete for the full 80mins. There was hardly anything at all between the sides though.

Some observations

1. I'd like to see the challenge on L'Estrange again as it looked a bit late and a shoulder charge.
2. Amazing to see not one offside at the PTB or scrum with both sides stood offside all afternoon. Does this rule no longer apply?
3. Does the flop rule no longer apply either?
4. Someone should tell Leon Pryce how to be gracious in victory.
5. Henderson is a world class whinger.

I thought most of the team had good games. We missed L'Estrange after he got taken out.'"


Agreed Bullseye, while Bentham did us no favours we should have been out of sight and still cannot believe we lost that game. I'm sick of taking an early lead, looking comfortable and then switching off and letting a team back in. I think just about all the other top 8 teams would have kicked on and put Catalans to bed by the hours mark.

Think Cummins got his tactics horribly wrong today. Apparently he put Sammut on the bench for his performance last week. I was at that game, now while Sammut wasn't brilliant, he certainly wasn't the worst player on the pitch. Gale was very poor and was responsible for two of our to opening tries last week. So don't understand why he singled out Sammut.

Langley, never has, never is or never will be a second rower. He just cannot pass. Put him in the middle and let him work. He didn't have a bad game today but there were a couple of times where we had an overlap and is inability to pass cost us.

Finally what do we do in video sessions. Every week we seem to start well, let the opposition back in, panic and lose the game. It all well and good having character and effort (although that should be a given) but to get in the top 8 you need to use that thing in between the ears and control the game. This is where Gale and Sammut earn their money, sadly they haven't done it yet again. If Gale had have kicked into touch against Widnes instead of a fancy kick from outside of the boot and Sammut had have booted the ball in to touch instead of chipping it straight into Whiteheads hands, then maybe we would have 4 extra points. Not good enough from the half backs.

It was a good effort today, tough, hard game, but if we want to get into the play offs we need to be smarter and more clinical. Can't keep blaming the referee (As bad as he was, certainly needs to answer the late shoulder charges from the Dragons players)

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Still yet not convinced about Gale as our long term solution has more average games than good ones for me.

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The last two games have been against teams with much bigger forwards. Last week our pack managed to gain parity, this week we eventually ran out of steam.

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Catalans played in that second half how I expect them to play every game of the season. Their pack is huge, they won almost every collision and Hendo was having the time of his life.
We chose the wrong option on a couple of plays and it cost us in the end. A damn shame, but this game didn't end our season. The dropped points against Widnes and Wigan were the real season killers.

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I agree with red about gale. He's far to inconsistent. Hes the organiser in the side but he doesn't take control. Last tackle options are the wrong ones 50% of the time. We need a general out there alongside Sammut.

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I thought Langley was immense in defence today, he put his body on the line and gave it to Catalans big men.

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"Keep blaming" the referee? Whilst he's not the first, the fact is that on this occasion he had a huge, disproportionate and unfair influence on the game. Any one of say 4 key decisions, if he gets it right, we win.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark ""Keep blaming" the referee? Whilst he's not the first, the fact is that on this occasion he had a huge, disproportionate and unfair influence on the game. Any one of say 4 key decisions, if he gets it right, we win.'"


I agrees he made some howlers. The back to 0 he gave it hit langleys back was an awful call, particularly when he ignored what I thought were some blatant attempts at the ball from Catalans and didn't wipe the tackle count.

The 7 tackle accusation I can't comment on. I thought they had too many tackles but I thought that's because he gave zero. Not happy that all 6 officials missed some of the foul play on our players.

That said it was in our hands and we have thrown it away. Even wen Kearney was sin binned the Henderson try was as soft as they come. Basic school boy errors like not crouching down at the play the ball. Unforunately them silly school boy errors have cost us many points throughout the season and that's the reason we're not in the play-offs, not because of Benthams inept display.

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