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So despite the initial press releases stating that it was a straight swap; it isn't. Its just a swap/loan until the rest of the seasonhttps://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/51515/bulls-secure-green-on-loan-until-end-of-season-rl

Anyone smell a backpedal.....?

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He’ll get to train in a full time environment I suppose which wasn’t an option with us or Batley
Interesting to see how he develops.

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Quote: Fr13daY "So despite the initial press releases stating that it was a straight swap; it isn't. Its just a swap/loan until the rest of the seasonhttps://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/51515/bulls-secure-green-on-loan-until-end-of-season-rl

Anyone smell a backpedal.....?'"


Why do we always look for the negative's in everything " Back Pedal" AH I Forgot this is bradford were all following icon_confused.gif: , this will just be a case of lazy jurno's

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Quote: Fr13daY "So despite the initial press releases stating that it was a straight swap; it isn't. Its just a swap/loan until the rest of the seasonhttps://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/51515/bulls-secure-green-on-loan-until-end-of-season-rl

Anyone smell a backpedal.....?'"


What initial press release was this?

The one which we put out last night (embargoed till 9.30am) clearly stated the agreement between ourselves and Castleford - player loan swap deal involving Reiss Butterworth and James Green.

The T&A had initially reported the story wrong, so a quick phonecall changed that mistake.

Good move all around with both players returning to their parent clubs at the end of the season.

To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday: "Bradford Bulls are not a selling club."

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Quote: Highlander "He’ll get to train in a full time environment I suppose which wasn’t an option with us or Batley
Interesting to see how he develops.'"


Agree.

It's a gamble though because if he shows too well they'll be after him, but if not then he's in the right mindset to take up the reins when he comes back...perhaps shows that CH Bulls will have more FT than this year so good to lay some foundations

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P.S. more good news to follow.

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Quote: paulwalker71 "I agree

I can't help feeling there's more to this than appears at face value. We've got a guy who hasn't had a sniff of a game for us all season who goes out to Batley on loan and straight into their first team. Then Castleford want to sign him (albeit as 'a project', I assume). It just seems odd

For some reason his face doesn't appear to fit with us - despite the fact the coaches at SL and Championship clubs obviously rate him very highly'"


I think it's fair to say that the value a coach puts on any individual player, in any particular season, is going to depend what other players he has available, and on that basis I'd say that Green, as a big prop, is going to be more use to us in the first team this season than Reiss who has not been picked at that level all season. Cas may well be thinking longer term, and Reiss is very likely to develop into a good quality, higher division player but Cas are in the position of being able to take a longer term view than we are just now - for us it is imperative that we get out of this division at the end of the season.

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The number one aim at the minute has to be to get out of this league.
We have let Reiss go out on loan when in all honesty he is 4th choice at the min and have brought in a player who will straight away improve the side. Perfect timing with the hard couple of games comi g up and I'm sure Reiss will benefit massively being at Cas.

It's a win win as far as I'm concerned, and deffo an area of the side where there us room for improvement.

I may be being too harsh but I think Peltiers form has dropped off and Kirk and Wood don't seem to be having a huge impact in terms of taking us forward. Hopefully Greens arrival will see improvements I the middle of the park.
And as has been mentioned, there is more good news to come so all in all I'm very happy at the min.

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Quote: paulwalker71 "I agree

I can't help feeling there's more to this than appears at face value. We've got a guy who hasn't had a sniff of a game for us all season who goes out to Batley on loan and straight into their first team. Then Castleford want to sign him (albeit as 'a project', I assume). It just seems odd

For some reason his face doesn't appear to fit with us - despite the fact the coaches at SL and Championship clubs obviously rate him very highly'"


Played very well in a struggling Batley team too. As Zapper said, if he does leave, it would be out loss, big time. It would be on par with watching Cameron Scott, Jake Trueman etc ply their trade at their respected clubs.

Only way i could see Cas taking him on loan, and him coming back to us, is maybe they want to trial him before purchasing him as a replacement for Milner. But i'll be very surprised if we see him in a Bulls shirt icon_sad.gif

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Quote: MicktheGled "What initial press release was this?

The one which we put out last night (embargoed till 9.30am) clearly stated the agreement between ourselves and Castleford - player loan swap deal involving Reiss Butterworth and James Green.

The T&A had initially reported the story wrong, so a quick phonecall changed that mistake.

Good move all around with both players returning to their parent clubs at the end of the season.

To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday

I stand corrected, it wasn't a press release from Bradford. However tweets and articles like this rlhttps://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1016415047424315392rl as well as the article in the T&A which state that Reiss has signed for Cas, with no mention of a loan deal (apart from Green coming the other way ON LOAN) don't inspire confidence in fans who have seen their best young players leave for rivals for years.

Lets face it, if it had been initially announced that both moves were loans until the end of the season many pages of this thread wouldn't exist. Right?

Anyway, I'm glad thanks for clearing this up Mick, and now we can look forward to Reiss being an integral part of our club for years to come.

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Quote: Fr13daY "
Quote: Fr13daY "What initial press release was this?

The one which we put out last night (embargoed till 9.30am) clearly stated the agreement between ourselves and Castleford - player loan swap deal involving Reiss Butterworth and James Green.

The T&A had initially reported the story wrong, so a quick phonecall changed that mistake.

Good move all around with both players returning to their parent clubs at the end of the season.

To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday

I stand corrected, it wasn't a press release from Bradford. However tweets and articles like this rlhttps://twitter.com/M_Shaw1/status/1016415047424315392rl as well as the article in the T&A which state that Reiss has signed for Cas, with no mention of a loan deal (apart from Green coming the other way ON LOAN) don't inspire confidence in fans who have seen their best young players leave for rivals for years.

Lets face it, if it had been initially announced that both moves were loans until the end of the season many pages of this thread wouldn't exist. Right?

Anyway, I'm glad thanks for clearing this up Mick, and now we can look forward to Reiss being an integral part of our club for years to come.'"


No worries, obviously the T&A had two pieces of the four piece jigsaw.

Reiss Butterworth still has 28 months to run on his Bradford contract.

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Quote: Bull Mania "Played very well in a struggling Batley team too. As Zapper said, if he does leave, it would be out loss, big time. It would be on par with watching Cameron Scott, Jake Trueman etc ply their trade at their respected clubs.

Only way i could see Cas taking him on loan, and him coming back to us, is maybe they want to trial him before purchasing him as a replacement for Milner. But i'll be very surprised if we see him in a Bulls shirt Don't forget he's under contract until the end of 2020.

I'm not saying that is the 'be all and end all' of the situation, but letting him go to Cas, just like to Batley, does show the the Bulls are open to anything which will hopefully benefit his career. If he turns on the sort of performances which make Cas want to keep him then maybe we'll be open to offers, because, as we all know, you can't make anyone come back who doesn't want to, other than in a purely legalistic way.

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Quote: Bulliac "Don't forget he's under contract until the end of 2020.

I'm not saying that is the 'be all and end all' of the situation, but letting him go to Cas, just like to Batley, does show the the Bulls are open to anything which will hopefully benefit his career. If he turns on the sort of performances which make Cas want to keep him then maybe we'll be open to offers, because, as we all know, you can't make anyone come back who doesn't want to, other than in a purely legalistic way.'"



Or he may have a clause in there should a Super League / Full Time club come calling.

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Quote: HamsterChops "Or he may have a clause in there should a Super League / Full Time club come calling.'"


Exactly, contracts mean nothing in the lower leagues. Hell they barely mean anything even in SL.

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Or maybe clearing the deck for an out of favour Leeds player?

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