In May of this year the club made 2014 season tickets available on an advance payment plan. Right when they knew the money wasn't their to pay tax bills & wages.

Was it Khan who put money in to cover these, or was it more borrowing?

Dangling from a rope somewhere? I'd imagine even he is finding it hard to put up with what's going on.

PS: and as for those plunkers that think a budget is reality, you try running a business, let alone a sports club business. The only thing that ensures a budget is reality is a SUGAR DADDY. eg Huddersfield..:

J.c: nearly said that myself. But wherever Sir Adey is, lets hope he rests in mental peace free from bullters.

Lets see what hard facts these stargazers have used for their astonishing predictions centuries before the events. Indeed, competition time, what is the collective noun for trolls that forecast events after they have happened?

The £200k monthly wage bill seems realistic, and I think I saw this figure in the T&A when the first monthly wage payment was missed. At the time I remember people making the same argument re the salary cap, and I seem to remember a RAB poster (maybe Mat or Maislebugs) stating that this figure was for all the staff, not just playing roster. And that this monthly figure had reduced from about £350k per month, from the year before.

The £200k a month wages figure has often been used in Bradford T&A pieces on the Bulls.

Why even mention he's putting money into a business he solely owns? You need to ask those who deal with him about his ego.

Khan has funded Sutcliffe's political career for years. Of course he's going to big his pal up. Whitcut has worked with Khan for years, of course he's going to big his pal up.

Tax bills don't get filed & forgotten about. They get ignored until court action is imminent. You forget that the previous incarnation of the Bulls went under owing HMRC £500k. How is football to blame for this?

You need to wise up about what is going on behind the scenes at your club

All the financial facts and figures in the world make little difference to the reality that after 10 home games this season, there was not enough money in the bank to pay the salaries of the staff. You can argue that the wages aren't 200k or any other pedantic points, the facts are that 11 months into the brave new dawn, the club was skint and reliant on the benevolence of Mr K. He is to be applauded BTW for actually stumping up some cash and this points to him being in it for the longer run.
As for those that say Mr K and his guys need time to learn how to run a sports club...... I'd suggest that's the last thing they need to do. Looking at other clubs in similar positions (mine included BTW), they need to be run like a business first and foremost....and that means not projecting wildly inflated ST sales to start with!

BTW...Did they miss wages payments and tax bill payments because they were too busy reading "RL Clubs for Dummies"?

What is the Bartercard deal? How on earth is it going to bring in £100k+ a year when there are only 55,000 cardholders worldwide?

Season tickets for 2014 being offered on payment plans in May? Juts when money was in short supply to pay tax bills & wages?

this is getting a bit repetitive but here we go:

How many and how much for these 2014 season tickets? how much was the tax bill and how much were the wages?

Seeing as you know so much about OKs personal finances, why dont you tell us instead of all this teasieweasie? and per the previous post, what loan for how much over what period with what covenants?

facts please boffaboy. When you have got them correct, you will then have the same facts that I used at the time to deduce the issues you are retrotractively commenting on four months later. Just try to get ahead of the game, not four months behind it.

davyz etc yes if £200k is what you are saying now after initially stating £280K, that is more realistic. Having written press releases myself and paid Pr companies to do an even better job, I am totally cynical about anything in the press (let alone bloggs) not substantiated by independent facts - as you may have guessed. so the £200k may actually be inflated with other things sort of wage related, just to show what a big amount can be paid off in one go. Which, all wages or not, is a big amount.

My workings out were 1000 x £280.00 = £280,000

Take away the tax that needed to be paid on this figure (hoping the club now understand the need to pay a tax bill on time) and it will leave you with close to the £200,000 figure for salaries.

Not an exact science, but that was my thinking.

btw, It's a sad day when I'm having an adult debate/discussion with the trolls and getting attitude from the 'Bulls Family'. I get that people are passionate, but some of the 'attitude' on this thread makes poor reading.

Concerns were raised at fans forums around the time the payment plan was introduced, and the club gave fans assurances that any monies received for 2014 STs would be ring-fenced and not spent during the 2013 season.
Now you can choose to believe them, or you can say they were lying to us all. I somehow get the feeling that you will be choosing the latter option.

If you believe everything you read in the press, more fool you. Sorry, yes you are.

You said he had been bulling himself up, I asked you to show me where he himself said anything, you have come up with nothing.

Sutcliffe simply stated he was not a sugar daddy. That is not bulling him up, friend or not. it is clearly a statement of fact. It warns people that he does not have limitless funds of money and so things could get tricky in the future. and yet somehow you have turned that into Gerry worshipping Ok for putting billions into the club.

No, as I have to do that myself it is not usual to forget about tax bills. But I also refer to the fact that the court case was a dismissal of a case meaning settlement of the debt. I was not blaming football for the bulls going under owing £500k. What football, through raising a footballer who may already have several million pounds in the bank to the level of preferential creditor over and above HMRC and other creditors who may not have been paid for debts of a lot longer standing than the fall-over boys, have made sure that HMRC jump are oversensitive to sports clubs generally.

As previously stated, I was wise months ago, before all this, yes as OK has stated through Gerry, he is not going to solely fund the problems, so of course I am concerned. But nonetheless I prefer facts to nonsense.

and on that note, nothing from the gutter press yet.

Really??? Think there is someone else who needs a reality check on here.

I've read many a post from you this year and it seems to me that you are one of a few who really have a problem with the owners and appear determined to stick the knife in at any given opportunity.

I'm not entirely sure why... I have my own suspicions why but i'll leave them off this forum.

The fact is that the new administration told us that it would take 3yrs to get this club back on the right road. They told us this at the first fans forum. They also warned us that the playing staff would take time to turn around. You dont just get to overhaul a crap team in 3months so why you expected anything better than last year i'll never know. I guess this doesn't matter as you, after all it wouldn't give you anything to complain about, would it?

The deal with the one hour sale was misguided but similar ploys happen in business all the time (I've booked tickets for shows only to see them slashed days later... just one of those things).

The sacking of the shop manager.... we don't know the full facts, Jay Willey.... we don't know the full facts, you get the message (or maybe you don't???)... YOU DON'T KNOW THE FACTS!!!

Why is this "stick" deserved when you actually know very little about the true facts. You seem to know very little about the real world at all in fact.

Ryan Whitcut has complained at the false speculation and bad press (yes something you've been very good at this last year) and has moved to put an end to this. He also says that his door is always open, something I've found out myself when I've been concerned by a few things. Its amazing what can happen when you ask. I wonder if you have given him or others an opportunity to put their own side forward before spouting what can only be described as unfounded and nauseating bile.

I've said it before and i'll say it again... You're either a fan (and if you would like me to given you a definition, please don't hesitate to ask for one ) or you're not... which one are you???