Must admit, I left a couple of seconds early after Wires final try. I thought our supporters were great today (except the cheering of Sykes when injured...not his biggest fan by any means but support yer own). You love the club but it really got tested today. Keep the faith people, we will come good.........maybe!

Adey, haven't we had this discussion before, as we know, no-one is going to pursue anyone for libel on here, because a) To call anything on here libel is a stretch b) proving authorship would be nigh on impossible c) it would cost more than could possibly be gained and d) none of us are rich enough, otherwise I hope we'd be buying in to the Bulls and helping out

Perhaps the title of the thread is also a little overstated - I'm fairly certain all 14000 fans didn't leave early, I didn't for one, and thoroughly enjoyed Elliot's try and the ironic cheers and applause of the Bulls and Wire fans.

Am I annoyed, yes and no, expected it to be honest. We were getting bullied by their forwards ( made worse when Elima got injured) and they have a much better back line with power and pace (we don't - made worse when Ainscough got injured and Walker is a second row not a centre now). They even have two halves who know how to play, can organise and direct their troops, we don't. The ricochets/charge down scores (3 or 4?) were dumb kick plays but were probably part of the game plan given the wind. What annoys me more is the complete lack of options on the last tackle, slow execution of pass plays and our inability to run support (barring Royston who tried hard). We need to invest in the halves if Potter doesn't think Briggs is up to it, Herbert is plainly not good enough and we can't rely solely on kearney to play stand off and fullback simultaneously. We also need more firepower in the forwards - a decent impact prop, Koppy is working hard but not there, and Hargreaves looked intimidated going in to collision all afternoon. Be good to see Scruton and Langley back.

Rugby League is part of the sporting entertainment business and if your no longer entertained then your quite within your Rights to get up and leave. Pay your money and take a chance !

I still have a video of Saints 12 Wigan 65 from 1997, in which Saints fans are clearly shown streaming out of Knowsley Road in their hundreds, if not thousands, by half-time.

Everyone has their dark times. Please don't assume that your club and fans are somehow superior to this, and that you can therefore lecture. You can't.

I almost never post on other clubs' message boards, but I think that when it comes to trolling a troll I can happily make an exception to that personal rule.

People threaten all sorts of stuff.

Quote: anarkik "People threaten all sorts of stuff.'" footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/ ... opic=15314 It does happen, ex Sheff Wed chairman Dave Allen sued several members of owlstalk.co.uk in 2007, due to libel comments on owlstalk.

Quote: anarkik "People threaten all sorts of stuff.'" footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/ ... opic=15314 It does happen, ex Sheff Wed chairman Dave Allen sued several members of owlstalk.co.uk in 2007, due to libel comments on owlstalk.

OK, I apologise for the comments about Mr Hood that I have subsequently removed. It was wrong of me to make statements that could be damaging and without any substance. I was out of order and a little upset at the way things turned out at the game. There is nothing to suggest that Mr Hood is anything but a fine man, who is 100% honest.

Where I will not change my views though are the ones I stated suggesting were are being taken for mugs. We are.

I didnt leave early but dont have any problem with those that did. Leaving early seems to me to be the most civilised way of registering a protest at a team's performance. Far better than booing. If you've paid your money why should you feel obliged to stay to the bitter end out of some sense of loyalty or need to prove your credentials as a fan?

The debate reminds me of the time we put 80+ points past Wire at Widerspool at the end of the 2001 (?) season. Nearly all of the Wire fans stayed to the end partly to "send off" players that were retiring. Part of me greatly admired them for doing that, but I couldnt help thinking they'd have done their club a bigger favour if the players had had to leave the pitch on a ground deserted of home fans. The Wolves players seemed to be taking the out of their fans that day (I think it turned out later that some of them were literally ed) and just didnt deserve any appreciation from the fans. Yesterday's performance certainly wasnt in that category, but it was bad enough for fans to feel thay could leave early without being criticised.

However cheering when a player is taken off injured is beyond the pale.

The thing is, there's a lot of talk of people leaving at half time cos someone saw people walking up the steps away from the stands 5 minutes before half time.

Tbh, I've seen that when we've been winning. It's because people want to get to the toilets, bars, food etc before the half time rush starts. It doesn't mean that people are leaving the ground.

I can understand how people might think that given the score line yesterday. But really, I think it's a case of 2+2= yellow.

The reason I say that is that the area I was in, on the pop side, was virtually as full at kick off as it was at full time.

I didn't leave early but didn't clap the players off the park and left as the hooter sounded. People can do as they please.

I didn't agree with cheering Sykes substitution either.

I stayed to the end but didnt want to.
Interesting that this thread was strted by someone not at the game, and then more people who either werent there or left early, commenting on why we might stay or go.
I will not criticise anyone for booing, leaving, stying silent, clapping etc... we all paid our money and that gives us the right to do what we like, within accepted legal boundries.

I stayed, but was vocal in my criticism of the team.

Warrington never had to get out of second gear, as we gifted them 7 tries from errors that I dont expect to see in a kids game on a Sunday morning. Players not getting kicks away on the last tackle, kicking the ball out on the full from a kick off etc...

To say Warrington were brilliant isnt true, as in the second half thier error count was huge, its just that they were 32 points up and could throw the ball around.

there are many threads on here debating the rights and wrongs of the club/coach/ players.

To say our players lack effort is in my opinion, not true. They lack the ability to read a game, and play dumb rugby too often. Warrington dont have players that are that much quicker in a straight line than ours, but the way they linked play through 3 or four pairs of hands to get it to the wing shows that mentally (in terms of playing intelligence) and technically they are better than us.

Sykes and Herbert seem to be taking the brunt of criticism and that is a reflection of what fans see, and in Sykes' case have seen for years. Between them, errors they made contributed to the majority of Warrington's tries. It is my opinon that fans would be more encouraged and encouraging if yoth was given a chance, even if the end result was the same. We have two young halves in Briggs and Southernwood who could fill in in their natural positions, and who will improve. It didnt do us any harm in 98 when we threw Deacon, Pryce and Fielden in did it?? we collectively got over 20 years out of them and lots of medals, rings, and caps.

I left with 17 minutes to go. I stuck it out that long because inexplicably my 4 and 1 year old daughters were enjoying it.

I'm no longer going to pretend that the £60 season ticket is a good deal. Its probably about right for what we are being served up.

I left at the end but I was with my 5yr old nieces who seemed to love their first game of rugby but that seemed to be down to the music, running up the steps at the end??, the bullettes and the fact it was a day out. We down the front between the 10 and 20m lines on the rooley lane end, popular side and didn't once see Bullman or Bullboy (might have missed it during trip to the loo) though. Glad they enjoyed it but was nothing to do with the rugby

Haven't read the thread and with the title of it, I don't intend to.

Just scanned to get a gist of it. Sufficed to say I stayed until the hooter, as I have never yet left a game early. However I don't blame people who did leave as many will have had perfectly valid reasons. I find it hilarious that fans of other clubs have this holier than thou attitude where they actually do believe that none of their own fans ever leave early. I can only assume they're so engrossed in the match that they don't notice. The biggest I personally can remember was the game at Saints when Paul Sculthorpe was lining up a touchline kick which would decide the match, right at the end. As I was slumped over a barrier in the away end struggling to cope with the tension, I noticed a number of Saints fans leaving. I was amazed that you could leave when the game was still so much in the balance. But at the end of the day, they've paid their money and it's up to them when they go.

As far as booing the team off, I won't ever do that either. But again, I'm not going to sit here and slate those who do. Everyone has their own way of expressing their feelings. Although I won't boo my side, I also don't feel there's an obligation to stand there and clap them off after performances that I can only describe as pathetic. So I chose to leave the second the final hooter went, and I did. When they deserve to be applauded off, I'll stay and applaud them, as I do 95% of the time. If I HAD stayed in this game, it would have been to applaud off the Wire side.

The only thing I do find a little dismaying was people cheering that Sykes was injured. While there may have been plenty of us hoping he'd be taken off, I didn't think there'd be so many people happy about the way it happened. Although I'm sure the cheering was more because he was going off rather than him being hurt, the actual sound of it to me was quite disrespectful in a sport and a stadium that is normally quite the opposite. There were plenty of people on here (me included) quick to condemn a certain member for wishing injury on a Leeds player (and apologies for bringing that up, as it's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned), but there seems to be a lot of people who thought it was fine to cheer Sykes going down hurt. Slightly hypocritical I feel (and that isn't aimed at anyone specific as I haven't actually read the comments closely enough and who has made them, just a general opinion of what I witnessed on Sunday).