Go on then, as a sensitive soul please enlighten us on the training ground injuries bearing in mind Scurr, Murphy and Jewitt were injured in a game, England (match injury 2021) and Kibula are still recovering from last seasons injuries, Doyle as I understand picked up a knock against Batley. As I understand, Hall and miller picked up hamstrings in training and Lilley had some kind of freak injury were his knee has gone running with no one near him. If there is a problem with training please let us know

As I said specifically, Lilley, Hall, Miller and Doyle are the ones who have been injured in training. I did “bear in mind “ that Murphy, Scurr and Jowitt were injured in a game and stated that very fact. Read my post again. My original post, that you took exception to, said “what on earth are they doing in training?” This is because I don’t know but thought it was a valid question. I still do, as it’s nothing new. Maybe there’s nothing wrong with training and we’re just incredibly unlucky. Not sure why you’re so affronted and tbh, whilst I don’t come on here to upset anyone, it’s almost impossible to avoid it in your case, which is exhausting.

I’m genuinely interested in whether or not there seems to be something amiss, possibly in training or is it just as you say, bad luck, which I would suggest with a couple of hamstrings pulls might be the case. Not sure with the rest whether these seem match standard injuries from games or down to other factors

Same here. It probably is bad luck. It’s just frustrating when there has been an effort to sign a reasonable squad given all the financial restrictions we have, and yet what seems like every week we hear that we’ve lost another player from a training incident. Hopefully it will settle down a bit going forward and these players will start returning from injury.

Have we heard any timeframe for Doyle or is it a ‘knock’?

I think Kear described Doyle’s injury as a knock. Hopefully, missing the Leeds game will be sufficient to allow him to recover.

Are we not including the 3 Leeds loan players?

Has it actually been officially confirmed they're coming?

I’d go for:

Kear
Dawson-Jones
R. Evans
Gill
Foggin-Johnston
Patton
Jowitt
Crossley
Flanagan
B. Evans
Murphy
Scott
O’ Connor

Johnson
Walker
Wallace
Scurr

Without the Leeds lads. I’d go for Baldwinson at prop. Ben Evans to loose. Fleming on the bench maybe, or that young half to cover 9 or 6 for a bit to give Flanagan a break.

In the post match interview JK was asked if they were coming and he said he'd spoken to Richard after the game and would phone him in the early part of the week. Holroyd and Walters are injured already so it'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

Thanks. Think Holroyd was more likely to figure in their first team than Walters so I can see them holding back Mustapha as he's the most experienced of the three.

It would push also push O'Connor nearer the 19, even if he didn't make the matchday squad. He's exactly what we need on the right edge, possibly more than Mustapha and Johnson at the moment, if Doyle is fit.

You think Murphy is past it then?

Yes. And by some distance.

He did struggle on Sunday but I put that down to a knock. I'll watch a bit more closely. Hopefully England isn't that far off a return as he was our best backrower last year IMO.