Might just be that last time we took a wire youngster he came with an injury and didn't play for a few months

We're baby-sitting while the rest of the first team squad go to Australia.

Not a bad thing though, we get £20 and all the pop and crisps we can eat.

The word 'loan' makes it sound like we're paying for them, I seriously hope not!

Apparently so

I've heard that Jobe murphy might be on his way back to the club after the departure of Winterstein.

I reckon it's more a "trial"

With us likely losing players throughout the season Franny needs to bulk our squad. Permanent signings are out of the question so it has to be loans. However they still need to be smart loans. Franny and the board won't want to pay for a loan of a player then realise its not going to work out after a couple of games.. With money so tight he needs to get the signings spot on. He's probably just gone to all clubs who only have youngsters available. So he's taken these 3 young lads on loan for pre season. If they impress I've no doubt the deals will be extended. If they fail, we let them go back and aren't wasting what vital little money we have. I reckon Frannys been quite clever.

Seems a bit odd. I guess time will tell.

From watching our Under 19's many times these players have always impressed me, I think they will get more first team action with us in the near future. I actually thought they might have made the Australia trip. Tom Walker - Turned 19 on Christmas Day, he is a big prop, however he is very mobile. Here's a video www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgwdx-X347E Joe Philbin - Turned 19 in November, strong mobile second row. Here's a video www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q50QrNfSNWM James Saltonstall - 20 at the end of September, can play anywhere in the backs. Quick, great footwork and strong for his size, here's a video www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm43sKRdDAM

From watching our Under 19's many times these players have always impressed me, I think they will get more first team action with us in the near future. I actually thought they might have made the Australia trip. Tom Walker - Turned 19 on Christmas Day, he is a big prop, however he is very mobile. Here's a video www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgwdx-X347E Joe Philbin - Turned 19 in November, strong mobile second row. Here's a video www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q50QrNfSNWM James Saltonstall - 20 at the end of September, can play anywhere in the backs. Quick, great footwork and strong for his size, here's a video www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm43sKRdDAM

Hmm, Second rowers... just what we need!!

Joking aside, it looks like a good move all round - nothing much to lose either way, and potentially lots to gain.

Let's hope they go the same way as Matty Blythe then

A prop, a back and a 2nd row. Aren't those the 3 areas we could do with a bit more cover?

Though given the timings both of the signings and the length of contracts, I have to say these are guys Warrington don't think are quite up to their first team this season, but would benefit from some exposure to SL.

I think the trial thing is probably the most likely answer, to see if the lads fit in with the club and then extending those deals

Can't really see any of them being in Wire's top 25 earners, so cap shouldn't be an issue for them. From our pov it does seem strange timing and, since we're obviously going to be spending a bit on their wages, it makes you wonder just what the financial situation is, considering we are supposed to be looking to off-load first team squad members to save money. On the face of it, unless we really are paying very little for their services, it seems strange to bring in young players who will be gone not much time after the league starts.

I suppose you could be getting them match fit for Swinton,if they ever sort themselves out

Philbin and Walker have (2013) shirt numbers in the 50's and will not be earning much. But more to the point they were only promoted to training with the first team at the end of last season. I would be surprised if you are looking to take them on, although Walker is a current England Academy player. My guess is that you may need a couple of more players for the friendlies, and we need to keep them fit - with the rest of the squad training in Oz. If they did stand out though ....

Saltonstall is a different matter. I would think you are looking at him with a view to the upcoming season. He is no longer eligible for the U19's (Philbin and Walker are), and needs time at Championship level or SL.

I think Ben Evans was also due to return to you before all the problems. I wonder whether an off season operation to Paul Wood means that we need him for the start of the season ?

I would be surprised if money came into the argument. I suspect TonySmith would view paying playing wages for Philbin and Walker to be a small price to pay for the opportunity to train and play in the pre-season friendlies.

All just IMO

Philibin and Walker will just be there for a month to keep them in training (and Tony Smith rates Cummins as a young coach) whilst Warrington are in Australia before returning to us for the start of the u19s season. I'd imagine that the payback will be that you will get to keep Saltonsall on loan, possibly for the season.

Saltonsall has been very close to a first team appearance at Warrington for a couple of seasons and has been a stand-out in our u19s. Surprised he's missed out on the trip to Aus as he would rank in front of a couple of players who have gone, perhaps there is more to that than meets the eye. He was an England Academy regular for a couple of years and was part of the Italy team that beat England prior to the world cup.

Providing his attitude is right and no reason why it shouldn't be then he could be an useful addition to your squad for the coming season. He's Oldham based as well I think so travelling along the M62 shouldn't be an issue.