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Pretty sure wigan film all of their games so can't br very difficult to get the film and fast forward it to the 2 index incidents and if wigan are found guilty of dangerous play I would expect them to be fined.

OT regarding the challenge cup, does anyone else have the feeling the balls had been warmed for the draws, as soon ad wigan and wire got into the last 16 I said it will be a final between them two could he proved right.

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I seem to remember there being a bit of a fuss over it a couple of years back, when the NRL first started looking into these kind of tackles. The one's where the 3rd man attacks a standing players knees either from the side or behind. If I remember right, Jeff Lima (playing for Wigan at the time eusa_think.gif ) got a pretty hefty ban for one that he did against Leeds at Headingley.

As usual it was another occasion where they were all over it for a few weeks an then forgot about it. It does need looking at though. It's dangerous and could cause serious injury.

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rlWayne Bennett wants it banned, surprisingly Michael Maguire who mastered the technique doesn't believe it ever happensrl

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Quote: broadybull87 "Pretty sure wigan film all of their games so can't br very difficult to get the film and fast forward it to the 2 index incidents and if wigan are found guilty of dangerous play I would expect them to be fined.'"

Pretty sure the Bulls do their own recordings, home and away. Difficult to analyse a game if they didn't. But I don't know.

Quote: broadybull87 "OT regarding the challenge cup, does anyone else have the feeling the balls had been warmed for the draws, as soon ad wigan and wire got into the last 16 I said it will be a final between them two could he proved right.'"

Not this conspiracy stuff again, come off it.

1. I would suggest that a suggestion both Des Drummond and Henderson Gill are bent and took part in a conspiracy is ridiculous.

2. It doesn't really matter which team comes out first, the odds are the same. But an example:

If Wigan comes out first, then that leaves 3 opponents. The odds are 2/1 against any given opponent, so it was 2/1 against Warrington coming out next. Or to put it another way, it was odds-on, i.e. 1/2, that Wigan would NOT draw Warrington.

An odds-on favourite won, that's all. Statistically, in the long run, it will do, 2 times out of 3.

And if at the last 16 stage the RFL wants a Wigan v Wire final - why don't we get Wigan v Wire finals every year, then? How come they allowed them to draw away at Bradford, away at Catalans and semi against Huddersfield last year, then? Insufficient ball heat? And how come the RFL decided to knock Leeds out for a year, what have Leeds done wrong? I'm sorry, but if you are suggesting that from the last 16 stage, someone at the RFL decided who would be in the Final, and has conspired with a large number of people to somehow rig every draw, and nobody has ever blown a whistle on the chicanery, then I think that's just nuts.

Mind you, most people really don't understand probabilities. Here's one for you, and it's not a trick question.:

A couple have 2 children. One of the children is a girl. Let's call her Myrtle. You don't have any more information.

What are the odds that the other child is a boy, and why?

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Pretty sure the Bulls do their own recordings, home and away. Difficult to analyse a game if they didn't. But I don't know.

Not this conspiracy stuff again, come off it.

1. I would suggest that a suggestion both Des Drummond and Henderson Gill are bent and took part in a conspiracy is ridiculous.

2. It doesn't really matter which team comes out first, the odds are the same. But an example


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Nope, not 1/3

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "
Mind you, most people really don't understand probabilities. Here's one for you, and it's not a trick question.

same as if you've flipped a coin and got a head, then flip it again looking for a tail.

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1 in 2. Fact they have a girl already has no bearing on second child. So could be a boy or could be a girl. 2 possible outcome both equally likely.

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I don't mind if they have makes it more interesting, I'm just making an assumption from what I have seen.

Would have been a crap final with no one there if it was Catalan vs huds say, only really 3-4 teams that could take 20k fans. So the stadium dosnt look empty.

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Quote: mat "1 in 2. Fact they have a girl already has no bearing on second child. So could be a boy or could be a girl. 2 possible outcome both equally likely.'"


Nope.

It is twice as likely to be a boy.

We know the parents have 2 children.

We know only that one of them is a girl.

Here are the only possibilities of what could have happened
1. Boy - Boy
2. Boy - Girl
3. Girl - Girl
4. Girl - Boy

We can eliminate no. 1 immediately, can't be boy-boy because one of the children (Myrtle) is not a boy.

But the other 3 remaining possibilities are equally likely. And in 2 out of 3, the sibling is a boy.

QED

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Back on topic, players shouldn't tackle other players with techniques that they wouldn't want used on themselves.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Nope.

It is twice as likely to be a boy.

We know the parents have 2 children.

We know only that one of them is a girl.

Here are the only possibilities of what could have happened
1. Boy - Boy
2. Boy - Girl
3. Girl - Girl
4. Girl - Boy

We can eliminate no. 1 immediately, can't be boy-boy because one of the children (Myrtle) is not a boy.

But the other 3 remaining possibilities are equally likely. And in 2 out of 3, the sibling is a boy.

QED'"


2 and 4 are exactly the same result you are trying to say 10 + 5 = 15 but 5 + 10 doesn't = 15.
So only two possibilities which are equally likely so it's a 1 in 2 chance of being a boy.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "QED'"


Why are the permutations of their birth order significant? There's one child, and there's the other one.

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My favourite illustration of probability would be the Monty Hall gameshow puzzle:

Suppose you're on a game show, and you're given the choice of three doors:

Behind one door is a car; behind the others, goats. You pick a door, say No. 1, and the host, who knows what's behind the doors, opens another door, say No. 3, which has a goat. He then says to you,
"Do you want to pick door No. 2?"

Is it to your advantage to switch your choice?

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