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| Quote BartonFlyer="BartonFlyer"And I repeat the question - IF those things result in Salford's financial demise then can we expect SLE to bail us out?'"
And I repeat - why the hell are you asking us?
That is a question you should address to the 13 SL chairmen or representatives who we are told unanimously approved teh decision.
And had they not taken that decsion, they would have been faced with the Bulls exiting SL stage left at very short order, and the structure and integrity of the competition for this year being wrecked.
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| I don't think Bulls have been bailed out. They'll likely finish the season now but beyond that... ?
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| Quote BartonFlyer="BartonFlyer"And I repeat the question - IF those things result in Salford's financial demise then can we expect SLE to bail us out?
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Leaving aside the fact that in no sense have the Bulls been "bailed out", obviously not, as unlike us, you're a little club, which they would be glad to see the back of. =#FFFFFF(Actually that is not my view, but I put it to try to match the dumbness of this question inexplicably posed by you to Bradford fans on an internet forum. How the fockers would we know?)
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| Quote Bulls4Champs="Bulls4Champs"Whats the point allowing all our players to speak to other clubs? Sure allow the OOC players to, but why the contracted players? Doesn't this short term takeover mean at least those players are going to be getting paid for the immediate short term future? And the RFL, the players, and fans know that if the Bulls were to go bust, those players that did remain contracted to Bulls would find new clubs and quotas/caps would be relaxed to accommodate them at short notice. So if the doors are being left open for Bulls to remain in SL one way or another, why is it being left open with the chance that Bulls may have to completely rebuild a full SL squad in quick time? It's bang out of order.'"
I think I posted something along the same lines earlier.
From being uplifted by the announcement I'm back, only a small bit above where I was before. The one good thing is that it gets rid of the shareholder problem and, so we're told, that should encourage a buyer. Which is fair enough, I guess but how do you get investment from someone who just wants to invest and not buy and run the business if you haven't got a management structure in place, or a management which has said it is only here short term?
The one thing for certain is that the RFL have got their wish for us to end the season. I hope I'm wrong but the RFL move on the players has the hallmarks of having got what they wanted and then clearing the decks for div2.
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac".. I hope I'm wrong but the RFL move on the players has the hallmarks of having got what they wanted and then clearing the decks for div2.'"
Not sure why the RFL, who own the Odsal lease, would want us in Div. 2 - where for one thing no way could we afford to play from Odsal. Unless they want to eat their iconic words and do a deal with the Council to sell the place off, which would leave them with more egg on their face than a man with a very big face covered in egg.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Clear nonsense. If ABC had come in and paid off all the debts and bought th club lock stock, then we would have continued on, and been in SL for the foreseeable. You know this, so why make up stuff? The Bulls' ongoing status as a SL club - so far as the RFL is concerned - will NOT BE CONSIDERED unless and until there is a buyer, and that buyer puts all their cards and details on the RFL table. To say that whatever bid came in, the decision has already been made to reject it, is, with respect, conspiracy nonsense.
I have said a few times that the procedures and timescales make me believe personally the SL boat has already sailed, though in the unlikley event of a big money bidder doing the business very quickly you never know. But your remark is another [inon sequitur[/i. SLE/RFL - put it whichever way you will - are not "encouraging" players to find other clubs, they seem to me to simply be being fair, since you (presumably) understand why the new owners SLE(E)Ltd cannot and will not sign or re-sign a single player? If not, read my earlier posts where I've explained it.
Interesting straw man, where did I or anyone claim that either of them made such a statement?'"
indeed the SL boat may well have truely sailed. Agreed. Little wonder the SL clubs did not want such a flawed organisation in SL in 2013. And given that the RFL share your view of the future they will encourage players to find other clubs. Which is where I started.
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"Haved I hit a raw nerve somewhere...?
I do NOT use the term "sugar daddies" in any disparaging way. It is merely a fact of life that at least ten (you forgot Pearson and O'Connor, but probably unfairly included Caddick now) of the SL clubs have been reliant on the largesse of their wealthy owner/investor in recent times.
And referring to others as friends is not the same as saying they would necesarily support the Bulls continuing tenure in SL. I would expect it would depend very much on the circumstances.
Which is why I keep saying that unless someone takes on the club pretty well "as is" - maybe with some allowance given to the damage that has been done as a result of the administration, and what would be involved to repair that - I cannot see the club remaining in SL, or surviving.'"
Try not to guess the emotional responses of other posters, you appear to have little talent for it.
I said Hood used 'sugar daddies' in a disparaging way. It tends to be used negatively.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark":10hgvj3iNot sure why the RFL, who own the Odsal lease, would want us in Div. 2 - where for one thing no way could we afford to play from Odsal. Unless they want to eat their iconic words and do a deal with the Council to sell the place off, which would leave them with more egg on their face than a man with a very big face covered in egg.'" could expect average gates of around 3/4,000 , that would allow them to pay a reduced rental to the RFL , drop to Championship 1 , and it all then falls apart
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Not sure why the RFL, who own the Odsal lease, would want us in Div. 2 - where for one thing no way could we afford to play from Odsal. Unless they want to eat their iconic words and do a deal with the Council to sell the place off, which would leave them with more egg on their face than a man with a very big face covered in egg.'"
But the logistics of it mean exactly that. At the end of the month the (best of) the players will be gone (and I don't blame them) along with the already (technically) gone coaching staff, whilst we can sign no-one (not that many would come, I know) so where is our SL team and coaching staff to come from?
Even with a new owner there will only be the sick, lame and lazy left to recruit after everyone else has signed the ones they want. Yeah OK , maybe I exaggerate a bit but we'd be in exactly the sort of position that the RFL stopped P&R and started licensing to avoid; teams coming into SL without being able to recruit properly and then getting stuffed every week.
Jeez, there's no-one hopes I'm wrong more than me but I can't see beyond us being lined up for division 2.
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| Quote af="af"I don't think Bulls have been bailed out. They'll likely finish the season now but beyond that... ?'"
Exactly. The extent to which the wrong end of the stick has be grabbed seems to be killing any meaningful discussion.
Bradford would/will have a bit more time with, effectively, a different administrator. And if a buyer can't be found, the prospect (hopefully) of a softer landing.
I think a fine line is being walked pretty well, frankly.
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"
Jeez, there's no-one hopes I'm wrong more than me but I can't see beyond us being lined up for division 2.'"
Without new ownership, I think that is pretty much inevitable.
I'm not going to sugar-coat it, but it is something to start from - debt-free and with some basic infrastructure in place.
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"But the logistics of it mean exactly that. At the end of the month the (best of) the players will be gone (and I don't blame them) along with the already (technically) gone coaching staff, whilst we can sign no-one (not that many would come, I know) so where is our SL team and coaching staff to come from?
Even with a new owner there will only be the sick, lame and lazy left to recruit after everyone else has signed the ones they want. Yeah OK , maybe I exaggerate a bit but we'd be in exactly the sort of position that the RFL stopped P&R and started licensing to avoid; teams coming into SL without being able to recruit properly and then getting stuffed every week.
Jeez, there's no-one hopes I'm wrong more than me but I can't see beyond us being lined up for division 2.'"
Spot on , you had what was it , 6/7 weeks to find a new owner ? , game over now , the RFL will be actively seeking your replacements in the remaining weeks till the end of the season , expect Mick potter and the aussies to be wearing Olympic Bleau next year
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