Daniel Holdsworth is on his way for 2012 if you believe the rumours.

the same holdsworth that signed a new deal at salford last year?. FWIW connor discounted that rumour as being regurgitated from last year (when we did look at holdsworth) a few weeks back.

True but there must be some substance in it otherwise I fail to see why LW would mention it.

Well yes you should. As getting rid of the people you mention does nothing but weaken the team. So it's no solution.

If you'd said we should get rid of them and get in player x,y and z as they're targets the club could afford/attract and would be an improvement on the players we're getting rid of then THAT would be a fully thought out comment.

Do you think that Peter Hood set his height far too high at the start of the season with a top four finish expected?

I have to be honest in that the calibre of players at Odsal aren't good enough to match the board and supporters expectations of a top four finish with them showing from the twenty one Super League games to date poor discipline, poor ball handling, poor tackling etc and the alarming lack of fitness is a massive concern of mine ahead of 2012 as we always seem out on our feet come the final third of the game.

This all not helped by the players seemingly lack of taking the responsibility for their performances (can you honestly accept the one week on fire (Leeds 12-18 Bradford) then two weeks of trash (Bradford 28-34 Catalans, Castleford 34-30 Bradford) view in light of the inconsistent nature of the performances?

Well i now take what he says with a massive pinch of salt after the Leon farce.

which bit of LW was it in? if it was in dosey parkers column then you can pretty much discount it at as he rarely does anything except print rumours of internet as scoops.

I haven't read it all yet but there is an article suggesting that we might be looking to offer Herbert a new deal. In amongst the article it mentions the Bulls trying to sign Seymour and having been linked with Holdsworth. Just repeating a rumour from what I can see.

1 year extension is all I'd offer providing we cant find someone who is a genuine improvement. think holdsworth would be stronger in some areas but weaker in others so not worth buying out of his salford contract.

I won't hold much optimism for 2012 if we're looking at BJ and Herbert as our starting halfbacks. Surely not? I reckon a few on here might change their tune on whether we should have gone back in for Pryce if that turns out to be the case.

tbh not sure pryce would be the answer. We seem to be lacking someone to organise the side. pryce, herbert and jeffries are all pretty much supporting standoff type players rather than creative scrum half types. We need an organising scrum half for any of them to play alongside IMO.

We also lack a halfback who threatens the lines and can produce a game changing piece of skill.