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Undercroft car park under the whole stadium - also tie in the stadium development with linking up the two rail stations and have one station within the stadium complex. May as well build a few shops in it whilst we're at it too.

Now where's me infinite pit of money?

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Quote: DILLIGAF "Can't fault that logic. Frequent Elland Road do you Mr. Gledhill? Me included. (edited for accuracy!)

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Quote: BantamBull "What a pathetic statement that lacks both accuracy and thought.

No wonder we Bradfordians reluctantly look up at the likes of Hull and Wigan nowadays.

Personally, I don't like Leeds United or Leeds Rhinos but I would certainly care if they went under. I would care if any club in any sport went under.

Back to intellectual discussion. I believe City are indeed using the Bulls as a bargaining chip but only because they have to. The plan on the pitch has gone horribly wrong and the club is suffering for it. Having to pay an approximate £1.2m figure before the season starts is not a sustainable plan for a club in the fourth tier. Mark Lawn tried his hand at getting the Bulls down at Valley Parade, a move I would have backed had money been spent to make it a home for both clubs, and when that failed he approached Gibb regarding a renegotiation of the rent. Now I believe this is his final option, a bluff almost, because the money has run out. Whether this is a bluff or not, I do believe that Bradford City FC will cease to exist if the club continues like this, however whether Lawn's estimate of within the next 24 months is correct I do not know. Either a renegotiation of the rent is made on a progressive basis (i.e. the rent varies depending on what league City are in) or City move to Odsal which would require an administration period, although admittedly I'm not certain of that. Either way, some sort of deal whether that be renegotiating the rent, moving to Odsal or a change of ownership at Bradford City is needed to secure its future. The most likely of which will probably be a renegotiation of the rent so that Gibb still has his pension fund secure and City can hopefully have less of a ball and chain and move forward because of it.

Regarding the move to Odsal. Some wouldn't back it in the same way many Bulls fans wouldn't back a move to VP. But either way, in my opinion, the future for both clubs has to lie in a ground share. Who knows, City moving to Odsal could bring about significant improvements such as a roof at Odsal.'"


Isn't the 'administration period' necessary due to the current owners of City being tied in to VP for another ten or fifteen years? This would be a convenient way out of that particular deal. Not that I'd suggest that deliberately reneging on debts was anything to be proud about (in fact the dead opposite) but would it not also have a downside, like a points deduction for the following season?

Incidentally, it's a similar reason why the Bulls couldn't easily move to VP. When the Bulls signed for the latest lease they took over responsibility for maintenance and received a considerable sum (we're talking £millions) as a donation from the council towards these costs. However there is a clause which commits the club to returning this money if they play fewer than the vast majority of games at Odsal, and as the previous regime actually spent the money some time ago (during their money is going out of fashion period) it isn't still laying in the coffers ready to pay back.

I think, that as the ground, without its tenant, is worth only scrap value to the pension fund administrators, some deal will be struck. Unless both sides really are in kamikaze mode, that is. Let's hope not.

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If City do come to Odsal then it reduces cost of rent for us and reduces it significantly for City enabling City to spend more on a good team then when they have 5 mill spare they can buy back VP, only would take about 2-3 year Im guessing.

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I predict City will stay at VP paying less rent. It's not in Gibb's interest to see them leave.

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "If City do come to Odsal then it reduces cost of rent for us and reduces it significantly for City enabling City to spend more on a good team then when they have 5 mill spare they can buy back VP, only would take about 2-3 year Im guessing.'"


See Adey, you way over complicate things.

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I don't overcomplicate things, it is a solution. Reduced Cost = More Money, More Money = Better Players/Buy Back VP, Better Players = Better Team.

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Quote: Mick Gledhill "I couldn't care less if they went bust again for a 3rd/4th time.'"
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Well, with comments like that it's no wonder there's so much animosity between bulls and city fans. What an utterly disgraceful and childish thing to say.

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Quote: Bullseye "I predict City will stay at VP paying less rent. It's not in Gibb's interest to see them leave.'"
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Especially when VP is so called 'brown-belt' land (I think the term is), whereas housing or supermarkets can't be built on it. Gibb will have to succumb in this situation or he faces an empty ground.

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "I don't overcomplicate things'"


You sure? I'm struggling to follow.

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "I don't overcomplicate things, it is a solution. Reduced Cost

There must be 2 Adeys. I meant the clever one.

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Step 1 BCAFC move to Odsal.
Step 2 The rent cost decreases for BOTH team as City will not have to pay 1.25m and Odsal rent goes down for the Bulls as City will pay half.
Step 3Becasue City don't have to pay 1.25m at the beginning of each year they will have more money to spend on the squad. If they get into playoffs they will earn money.
Step 4It would cost BCAFC £5million to buy back VP, this 5mill will be made from the mony they DON'T use on rent. So in 2-3 years City can buy back VP and then not worry about rent.

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "Step 1 BCAFC move to Odsal.
Step 2 The rent cost decreases for BOTH team as City will not have to pay 1.25m and Odsal rent goes down for the Bulls as City will pay half.
Step 3Becasue City don't have to pay 1.25m at the beginning of each year they will have more money to spend on the squad. If they get into playoffs they will earn money.
Step 4It would cost BCAFC £5million to buy back VP, this 5mill will be made from the mony they DON'T use on rent. So in 2-3 years City can buy back VP and then not worry about rent.'"



I don't think it's as simple as that. There would need a fair bit spending on the ground to make it suitable for football.

The Bulls pay almost nothing in rent as it is.

City spend 600k a year on rent now and they can't afford it any more. It would take much longer than 2-3 years to save up £5m after you add in costs of moving to Odsal and general overheads.

Like I said before, City will stay at VP and pay less rent as Gibb needs the income.

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www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... eighbours/

The comments at the bottom are hilarious.

Like **** we are going to share with City at the ramshackle Valley Parade and share the rent icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif
www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... eighbours/

The comments at the bottom are hilarious.

Like **** we are going to share with City at the ramshackle Valley Parade and share the rent icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif


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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "I'm sure Mr Hood wouldn't turn them away if they offered some decent £££
From the report on the Pulse.

Bradford City would save £750,000 a year by playing at Odsal.

I think if we charged them say £300,000 a year then with both clubs at Odsal, the prospect of putting a roof over the popular side wouldn't/shouldn't be that pie in the sky?

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