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Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Talking of loans etc for buying stadiums leases, what is the situation with Wakefield and the loan from Wakefield Council? Seem to recall there being some sort of investigation into the sale of Belle Vue but it seemed to go quiet? Do Wakefield still owe the council the money?'"
Trinity are paying the council, the council can call in the loan is trinity default on payment. No action was taken against Trinity by the NCA, but Manni Hussain had to pay them several millions of £ under the unexplained wealth rule.
https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/spor ... al-2891999
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Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Talking of loans etc for buying stadiums leases, what is the situation with Wakefield and the loan from Wakefield Council? Seem to recall there being some sort of investigation into the sale of Belle Vue but it seemed to go quiet? Do Wakefield still owe the council the money?'"
Trinity are paying the council, the council can call in the loan is trinity default on payment. No action was taken against Trinity by the NCA, but Manni Hussain had to pay them several millions of £ under the unexplained wealth rule.
https://www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/spor ... al-2891999
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Having worked for that previous VC before (not at Bradford) I can sympathise with that. However, the new VC and leadership team seem to have a good reputation across the Yorkshire network of Uni's.
I am also lead to believe that the financial performance at UoB is pretty good of the back of an increase in student numbers and positive faculty changes. They are also working up their next uni strategy so this would seem like the most suitable time to be having a discussion about any collaboration opportunities.'"
Yes it’s fair to say the last VC wasn’t up to the task. But things have improved markedly over the last 4 to 5 years to a point where they are in a pretty decent place. A link up would be beneficial for both parties but the Bulls have seemed lukewarm to the idea for some reason.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Yes it’s fair to say the last VC wasn’t up to the task. But things have improved markedly over the last 4 to 5 years to a point where they are in a pretty decent place. A link up would be beneficial for both parties but the Bulls have seemed lukewarm to the idea for some reason.'"
I just don't get the Bulls thinking, not the council for not trying to put this partnership together.
Universities will invest capital in projects if they see great potential. An Odsal sports campus would create a stream of income to the university, the local community would benefit from increased spend from students in the local area and the council/Bulls would benefit from the facilities, increased commercial income opportunities and joint partnership opportunities with the uni (work placements, experience opportunities etc)... win-win all round.
From my experience the most obvious opportunities are often overlooked and it does seem like this is a huge one being missed.
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| Do Universities still adhere to the Wednesday afternoon agreement whereby there are no lectures, seminars or tutorials in that time thus freeing students for participation in team sports?
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Do Universities still adhere to the Wednesday afternoon agreement whereby there are no lectures, seminars or tutorials in that time thus freeing students for participation in team sports?'"
In general, yes that does still happen. Most universities take part in BUCS (British University & College Sport) leagues and cup which for the majority take place on Wednesdays.
Some university departments will try and sneak lab sessions in which makes things a bit tricky for students but on the whole the vast majority will play fixtures on Wednesdays and train the rest of the week.
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| The Stadium and indeed our onfield performance need improving to sneak up, or stop us from sliding down the ISG rankings.
As you can be assured that every other club will be scrambling to improve on what they can improve on..
We have scraped "The" 14th spot that would see you in SL should they go to 14 teams, but its by no means secured for when the grading actually counts next year,
I would be seriously looking at a top 4 finish in 2024 if I was us.
How you bring in a multi million pound stadium deal when you nor the council has a pot to pi$$ in is quite another conundrum. which Nige and Hirsty will need to make happen pretty damn sharpish.
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| Bradford University playing at Odsal Stadium today.
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| That's all very non-commital isn't it? Depends on the sale then next paragraph they're using 'new owner' like it's a done deal?
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| V poorly written article.
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| Why does anyone ever give any credence to things posted on SARL? It should be prefixed by YCB - the first four letters of the whole being an acronym of a John McEnroe "catchphrase."
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| T&A reported that Knight Frank (the company handling the sale of the lease) had had a number of expressions of interest but nobody had got as far as a due diligence test.
So the lease is still held by the RFL.
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| [urlhttps://content.knightfrank.com/property/ldl012337943/brochures/en/ldl012337943-en-brochure-5b113b8a-9aa3-4406-acfb-4ee2dbbb3ca4-1.pdf[/url
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| Here’s the brochure link.
Headlines:
Value £750k
Current income approx £125k
Rateable value £105k
Length of lease left: 129 years, peppercorn rent.
The Foundation, shop and ticket offices are not included in the lease on the map provided.
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| 'Prominent Car Dealership Premises' - even the sales agents are woefully amateur when the RFLs involved
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| That stock car track looks even worse from the air. The stuff's everywhere - it looks terrible on the terracing and i didn't realise it was all over the car park behind the coral stand.
What an eyesore
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| Looking at the mess Salford are in at the moment, we'd be absolutely mad to go to Valley Parade. Nice stadium and we'd prob get enough points to get into SL. But long term, the rent could cripple us. Rather just stay at Odsal even if that means Championship rugby
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| The devil is in the detail of the contract wherever the club plays. I'd be quite happy to go to VP provided the contract is fair and watertight.
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| VP is 13 metres too short. The minimum pitch requirement is 88 metres length plus 6 metres each in-goal. Plus 3 metres between in goal and barriers. That equates to a total pitch length of 116m. VP is 103m. I suppose we could have a back-office conversation with the RFL to ask if they'd authorise our permanent home being significantly undersized, and we'd then know if was even an option.
The gap to the barriers is a safeguarding issue which I wouldn't really want to tinker with. When we play at footy grounds you see our lads hurtling into places they should never be near. That can't be right.
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| I don’t know if anybody heard it but Hirst was on podcast and says best case scenario council acquire it failing that if they are told they can change things bulls will buy it
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"VP is 13 metres too short. The minimum pitch requirement is 88 metres length plus 6 metres each in-goal. Plus 3 metres between in goal and barriers. That equates to a total pitch length of 116m. VP is 103m. I suppose we could have a back-office conversation with the RFL to ask if they'd authorise our permanent home being significantly undersized, and we'd then know if was even an option.
The gap to the barriers is a safeguarding issue which I wouldn't really want to tinker with. When we play at footy grounds you see our lads hurtling into places they should never be near. That can't be right.'"
Has it shrunk since we played there in 2001 and 2002? I didn't see any problems back then?
Quote ="Pyrah123"I don’t know if anybody heard it but Hirst was on podcast and says best case scenario council acquire it failing that if they are told they can change things bulls will buy it'"
Not heard a podcast, do you have a link pls? How would the Bulls afford the leasehold? Did Hirst think that possible? Intrigued by that possibility.
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Quote ="Bullseye"Has it shrunk since we played there in 2001 and 2002? I didn't see any problems back then?
Not heard a podcast, do you have a link pls? How would the Bulls afford the leasehold? Did Hirst think that possible? Intrigued by that possibility.'"
It was Hirst that said it
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2YmTXE ... XIfOjJP1vA
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Quote ="Bullseye"Has it shrunk since we played there in 2001 and 2002? I didn't see any problems back then?
Not heard a podcast, do you have a link pls? How would the Bulls afford the leasehold? Did Hirst think that possible? Intrigued by that possibility.'"
It was Hirst that said it
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2YmTXE ... XIfOjJP1vA
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Has it shrunk since we played there in 2001 and 2002? I didn't see any problems back then?.'"
I thought we were only given dispensation to play there as it was a temporary thing? I'm sure I can remember players hitting the hoardings.
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| See Mick Gledhills latest update? RFL asking for best written bids, by no later than Wednesday 31st January 2024. As it is hoped a sale will take place in February.
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| Yeah, I read it as the RFL saying
'oh cr4p, please someone buy it cos it's going to cost us a ton of money in IMG world and no-one's shown any interest at all! No honestly, it's getting a bit worrying, come quick! We'll sell it in Feb, honest we will...you'll miss out, you will....you will. You'll be sorry!!'
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