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| I actually think the Bulls played well today. They had nice movement off the ball and attacked from deep. Their sliding defence looks to have improved out of sight compared to last year and the goal line D was solid. Catalan though would have beaten any team in Super League today and beaten them well. Their defence was as good as any I have seen in a round 1 game. Added to that the way they managed to move the ball around with pretty much a whole back line missing and you know they are going to be a force to reckon with this year. Lopini Paea was brilliant taking the ball forward and really got them on the front foot every time he had ball in hand. Scott Dureau controlled everything and his cut back inside and kick off the outside of the boot on the 5th tackle for Millard's try was the moment of the game.
As for the Bulls, Kopczak was immense for them and Gale ran every thing. There were a few lapses in concentration that cost the Bulls and that needs to be worked on, especially around marker defence, but I thought it was a positive loss today for the Bulls against a team who will definitely be pushing for the top 4 if not higher this season.
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| More movement off the ball today, and a couple of early passes to the wings at least suggest we will have a little more attack to cheer.
The biggest problem was up the middle, where they simply strolled through at times. it think cats will have one of the strongest packs in the competition this year but we still need improvement quickly. Elima and whitehead should help up the middle, but to blame injuries is a joke when you look at who catalan were missing.
Hopefully this gives a kick up the for cas, or we are going to be getting a score shoved up it instread.
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| I agree with Harrigan. Had Sammut grounded, shirley valentine been able to hold on to the ball and Purtell been able to get the ball down the whole tone on this board would be completely different.
The worrying thing was the way Catalans scored at will almost straight down the middle some real problems there but they've a week to work on it. I can remember a bloke pretending to tear up his season ticket book in front of Noble half way through the season in 2005 so i'm not going to cry like a baby after 1 match.
Get a grip and get behind the team. The atmosphere today was pathetic. Menzies (an ex player who turned his back on the club) got a bigger cheer when his name was read out by Steve Bailey than the team when they came out. We really need to buck our ideas up and create an intimidating atmosphere at Odsal!
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| Well on the Super League Fulltime show tonight Bill Arthur couldnt state enough how understrength Catalan were due to injuries and not once mentioning ours !!!
Also basically all potter said was we lost because they beat us and were betterin the middle of the pack
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| What was obvious from the highlights was the tragically weak defence from Diskin and Langley among others.
Potter came across as utterly bemused and a bit clueless to be honest. To say that 'the other side were better' was hardly an in-depth analysis, albeit true as all of us could see from the stands!
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| Be nice to see Elima and Whitehead back in the squad ASAP just for their defensive efforts - when is Manuokafoa due back ?
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| I thought Whitehead was very poor defensively last year but I agree about Elima. He is one of the better back rowers in the comp and the sooner Sibbit is out of the team, the better.
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| Now you see last year Sibbit started off absolute gash and was a penalty machine, as the year went on to be fair he did get better week after week,
And he isnt afraid to get stuck in like most players in the squad
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| Quote: pulsator2k7 "Now you see last year Sibbit started off absolute gash and was a penalty machine, as the year went on to be fair he did get better week after week,
And he isnt afraid to get stuck in like most players in the squad'"
Sibbit is an honest trier, but sadly out of his depth when it comes to the rigours of Super League.
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| That appears the case for most of the squad at the moment doesnt it ??
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "I agree with Harrigan. Had Sammut grounded, shirley valentine been able to hold on to the ball and Purtell been able to get the ball down the whole tone on this board would be completely different.
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And if we hadn't have missed any tackles we'd have nilled them..
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| Potter thought we got beat up the middle - hardly surprising. Scruton is not big enough to be a prop (a couple of big hits two seasons ago doesn't compensate for his nervousness now after a couple of injuries) and he offers nothing in go forward, Hargreaves is no different, spends half his time stepping and running laterally. Koppy brilliant, come on loads and I'm hoping for the same from Burgess, but leWe're consistently poor at tackling around the ruck and didn't move up to meet the offense once today. Harrigan thinks our goal line defense was good, but that's not what you see from the highlights, you see poor tackling - using arms only and not bending the back - that's why Cats were able to break tackles and offload at will, our technique was appalling.
Other players - well Donaldson isn't big enough to play in the pack either and isn't elusive enough to compensate for his lack of size, his tackling is also suspect. Beaver was beating up Sibbit for fun and leaving him flat footed everytime he got one on one. Chev Walker - anonymous and slow. Elliot Kear and Crookes have pace, but when I watch Elliot today, I'm reminded of Halley or Ainscough, both fast, can be elusive but are unlikely to break a tackle and offer little in terms of return from defense. Gale and Sammut, well Gale hardly ran everything, got beat with Langley to the tackle to give up a try and apart from a couple of set patterns where he consistently passed high he didn't look any better than Briggs etc. Sammut is an individual, with lots of energy and invention, but his defense is pretty awful, as we saw when the Cats walked through him on the line for a try.
Whitehead, Elima and Manu will bolster the pack, but I fear for this team - what Hull and now Cats have done to us is no accident and I have no idea what Potter has being doing in terms of our defense.
Apologies if that sounds pretty negative, I can see us getting better but feel that the quality of our squad isn't good enough and we've got players like Walker, Sibbit, Langley, Hargreaves and Scruton who won't get any better and are probably not good enough to get us in to the top 8.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "And if we hadn't have missed any tackles we'd have
nilled them..'"
The point I'm trying to make is that we created the chances but didn't convert them clever !
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "The point I'm trying to make is that we created the chances but didn't convert them clever nice bloke!'"
Sounds a familiar story... that's the worry I have.
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| Quote: Bully_Boxer "Sounds a familiar story... that's the worry I have.'"
Chill out. October is a long way off.
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