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| Quote: Gurus_Beard "And we haven never we engineered a situation as outlined above with other players, in our favour?
Again, as fans, we are being pious.'"
As fans? Are you actually a fan of the club?
You feel that Orford has acted appropriately then? If you were an employer, you would be fine with an employee of yours acting the same way? |
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "... then it would be a good signing. '"
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apparently mimi's (orford agent) is telling parramatta and canberra that he doesnt think we have any legal grounds to demand any compensation!. Not quite sure how he comes to that conclusion, surely thats why we have contract?.
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| Quote: mat "apparently mimi's (orford agent) is telling parramatta and canberra that he doesnt think we have any legal grounds to demand any compensation!. Not quite sure how he comes to that conclusion, surely thats why we have contract?.'"
If that ends up being the case, it's gonna open up a whole big can of worms. |
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Quote: mat "apparently mimi's (orford agent) is telling parramatta and canberra that he doesnt think we have any legal grounds to demand any compensation!. Not quite sure how he comes to that conclusion, surely thats why we have contract?.'"
www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/r ... 5945833041
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Quote: mat "apparently mimi's (orford agent) is telling parramatta and canberra that he doesnt think we have any legal grounds to demand any compensation!. Not quite sure how he comes to that conclusion, surely thats why we have contract?.'"
www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/r ... 5945833041
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| Quote: Maislebugs "www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/rebel-yell-for-homesick-matt-orford/story-e6frfgbo-1225945833041
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I love how that article has the caption of "Desperate for a return to Australia ... Manly captain Matt Orford."
Erm. No, he's not. |
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| Quote: Maislebugs "www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/nrl/rebel-yell-for-homesick-matt-orford/story-e6frfgbo-1225945833041
Compo still front and central in this article.'"
well this is the quote from an article someones put on T&A website. unfotunately they dont give a source so I cant put a link to that up.
Quote: Maislebugs "Meanwhile, the Eels will intensify negotiations to sign former Manly captain Matt Orford when his manager, George Mimis, returns from the US later this week. The halfback has requested a release from the remaining two years of his Bradford contract and is being sought by Parramatta and Canberra.
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Bradford officials want a transfer fee but Mimis is understood to have told the Eels and Raiders he believes the Super League club has no grounds to demand a payment for Orford's release. The Bulls have signed Canberra halfback Marc Herbert to replace Orford.
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Where did this $200k come from? We need to end this. I think we just go for £25-30k compo which would cover his last couple of months wages, face saving all round, chapter closed, move on.
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| Quote: "Mimis is understood to have told the Eels and Raiders he believes the Super League club has no grounds to demand a payment for Orford's release.'"
He's told them that. It's not true though  |
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|  George Mimis. International jet setter, man of mystery, and now a leading expert in International Law of Contract. What a man, I never knew. |
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And a man who I really really hope gets to live a really interesting life, in very interesting times indeed.
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| Quote: Adeybull "And a man who I really really hope gets to live a really interesting life, in very interesting times indeed.'"
Indeed Adey! Unfortunately, apparently living in a moral vacuum, these people seem have an innate belief in their own abilities, allied with a total lack of any sort of the conscience which would make most people behave more considerately. What is more they always seem to come through life's travails totally unscathed, rising inexorably, scum like, to the surface. You, and I, wouldn't be able to sleep at night, somehow I doubt he's too bothered. |
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| Quote: Highlander "Where did this $200k come from? We need to end this. I think we just go for £25-30k compo which would cover his last couple of months wages, face saving all round, chapter closed, move on.'"
Someone with common sense  |
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| Quote: Gurus_Beard "Someone with common sense ![]()
Yeah right!
Definition of a contract with the Bradford Bulls :
If you're injured, ill or hopeless you can stay and claim wages for the full duration of the contract.
If you're good and someone else is prepared to offer you a better/preferable opportunity elsewhere you can negotiate said contract while the Bradford Bulls are paying you while at the same time denying you are doing so and promising to return. Despite the cost/inconvenience to the Bulls they will accept 25-30k and move on even though they have paid the player much more than that while he has sat in Sydney chatting numbers with Parramatta.
Unlike any other contract in the world this contract only protects one party.
If Orford had been injured at the end of the season and was not fit to start the coming NRL season he would still be our player because the NRL clubs wouldn't want him. When we accept this behaviour from Orford what do we say to L'Estrange or Kearney should they get homesick mid-season? Despite him being disappointing we have to keep paying Glen Hall for 2 more years. WHY? Because we signed the contract.
Had Orford said in July, let's shake hands and part company, I'd have said yes and best of luck. But he didn't, he lied to keep taking our money.
If you're so magnanimous about Orford's behaviour you write off 100k of your own money, but as a season ticket holder I want mine back and I demand my club stand up to Orford and Mimmis and send a clear message to any who in the future think they can make a deal to take our money and then renege.
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Apologies if this has already been discussed earlier. What will happen if the Aussie clubs refuse to pay compo and the Bulls won't let him go for free? I know that Hood said that we'd retain his registration but wouldn't that mean we have too many overseas players now we've signed Herbert? Does having a players registration count on the quota? Wouldn't have thought it would but don't know for sure.
Hope the clubs in Oz don't listen to low life Mimis or I can see this dragging on for ages. What if it went to court and they side with the Bulls, Oz clubs still won't pay compo and Orford has to see out his contract?
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