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| Just to show the scumbag vermin up for the sludge at the bottom of the pond that they are, here - by contrast - are some words from Sir Steve O'Connor, against whom no sensible Bulls fan will ever hear a bad word said[i“It would be easy to take a very self-interested view about this situation in terms of what it might mean for our own club. But the fact is it’s the Bradford fans you have to feel sorry for.
“The fans have already put their hands in their pockets once to try to bale the club out and now many of them will have paid their season-ticket money and don’t know where they stand. It’s outrageous."[/i
I would imagine that he would share the same view of some of these slime moulds who have infested this forum as we do? A better man by far than the whole bloody bolus of them put together.
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| Quote: Pumpetypump "Not well said. It's pure spite directed at the fans who have done nothing wrong. It is frankly pathetic.'"
Yes you are quite right, having read the post again.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Just to show the scumbag vermin up for the sludge at the bottom of the pond that they are, here - by contrast - are some words from Sir Steve O'Connor,.'"
Did O'Connor get his knighthood at the same time as Sir Peter Hood?
I recall that some Bulls fans had the audacity to question Hood long before the sale of Odsal. The questioners were called things like...slime etc. Some of those vitriolic posters seemed to want Hood deified never mind knighted.
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| Quote: Cripesginger "Did O'Connor get his knighthood at the same time as Sir Peter Hood?
I recall that some Bulls fans had the audacity to question Hood long before the sale of Odsal. The questioners were called things like...slime etc. Some of those vitriolic posters seemed to want Hood deified never mind knighted.'"
Here's another toilet that needs flushing. What exactly does that pointless and meaningless anecdote contribute?
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Here's another toilet that needs flushing. What exactly does that pointless and meaningless anecdote contribute?'"
What it contributes is precisely nothing. It has no answer to what I said, so it seeks to change the subject to one of its own choosing.
YOU can see it is a nasty little cockroach. I can see it is a nasty loittle cockroach. We can ALL see it is a nasty little cockroach. One that would probably run a mile if it came up in person against a few on here who knew it for what it was, and decided to take steps accordingly. Same as the rest of the nasty little slime moulds that have been attracted to our plight the way hyenas and vultures are to a wounded animal. They hide behind their keyboards thinking they are Soooo clever and Sooooo smart. When in fact they are just sad pathetic little creatures that are sooooooooo desperate to be noticed and for someone to take them seriously. Utterly pathetic.
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| This question has probably been answered but I failed to find it.
If a buyer comes forward AND pays off all the creditors, will the bulls receive their points back? The deduction was because BB2014 wherent going to pay anyone am I correct, or may we get 4 back and have 2 due to entering admin?
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| Quote: broadybull87 "This question has probably been answered but I failed to find it.
If a buyer comes forward AND pays off all the creditors, will the bulls receive their points back? The deduction was because BB2014 wherent going to pay anyone am I correct, or may we get 4 back and have 2 due to entering admin?'"
Interesting one.
The sanctions are given to the member, which in this case was BB2014.
As they were running the Bulls team in the league at the time the sanctions were imposed, these points de facto disappeared from the league table.
Any new owner would have to go through the process of applying to be a member of SL and then to join SLE, that application would be to take over the Bulls franchise so that the new owners' team could take the place of the previous Bulls.
The obvious answer would be if yes, then that includes starting where the previous one left off.
As no sanctions would have been applied to the new owners, they could not on the face of it apply to vary them. it would just be something that happened before their time.
Anyway it's almost certainly academic as I can't imagine there is anyone out there with either the ability or the willingness to pay all the old club's creditors which would be the only reason the RFL might have listened. The corollary of which though must be that that's the old creditors royally fooked, as only a lunatic would pay them and still take the full hit.
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| It has nowhere been said that BB2014 was not going to pay anyone.
My own understanding was that they were. But the RFL concluded that they had not proven categorically that they were.
Moore fired a string of very powerful accusations at the RFL. In Rimmer's response, he did not answer those accusations, but instead threw in a string of his powerful ones of his own. A pìssing contest while the staff at the club wonder what yet again is to become of them.
There is a list of specific questions for BB2014 and the RFL. Same questions to both parties. Straight answers required. Lets see what they say, and cross-reference. Get to the bottom of this once and for all, and see who the guilty men are here.
THEN we will see who is telling the truth in this whole sorry saga. For, sure as hell, someone is most certainly not, and this whole affair has the stench of a rotting carcass.
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| Does anyone know a member of staff well enough to ask them what they have been told about their position, whether by BB2014 or anyone else?
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Does anyone know a member of staff well enough to ask them what they have been told about their position, whether by BB2014 or anyone else?'"
Staff? Who gives a toss. They are just commodities to be shat on, in the great game that is clearly being played out here.
There are people up at Odsal that have been working their nuts off to try and make a go of the totally shìte hand they have been dealt. This is real people we are talking about, Real peoples' lives. Yet some vermin sat behind fancy desks are treating them like something you scrape off your shoe. It is a total disgrace. How those so-called people, these excuses for humanity, can look themselves in the mirror in a morning is beyond me.
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| I hate this forum sometimes enter a look worded retort to FA and it has not submitted it.
Anyway let's try again, if the owners, directors or whoever say they will pay back a chain percentage will we get at least 2 back? If not and they are willing to honour some of them and the RFL says tough what message does that send out to anyone else that the RFL really don't give a stuff about ensuring those out of pocket are paid.
The fine was taken from the bulls but it was to ensure the directors are willing to clear some debts so that they don't receive the max penalty, so a new company in charge would need to go through the ratification process surely? And the RFL would need to get involved to look at the financials (that worked swimmingly) so it is totally possible that pts are given back, would like to see the RFLs press release on that would be a good read. If I was Lamb for instance who was looking to purchase that is a bquestion I would want answering before I make my finally decisions.
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| Quote: Adeybull "What it contributes is precisely nothing. It has no answer to what I said, so it seeks to change the subject to one of its own choosing.
YOU can see it is a nasty little cockroach. I can see it is a nasty loittle cockroach. We can ALL see it is a nasty little cockroach. One that would probably run a mile if it came up in person against a few on here who knew it for what it was, and decided to take steps accordingly. Same as the rest of the nasty little slime moulds that have been attracted to our plight the way hyenas and vultures are to a wounded animal. They hide behind their keyboards thinking they are Soooo clever and Sooooo smart. When in fact they are just sad pathetic little creatures that are sooooooooo desperate to be noticed and for someone to take them seriously. Utterly pathetic.'"
If you ever played the game I assume your sledging got big laughs.
I have seen you and your chums repeatedly - arrogantly - have a go at other bulls posters and they have never responded with the infantile bile you present in this post.
Rimmer giving such a detailed public response yesterday will have been agreed by Barwick , Wood and possibly all the non execs. Going public on the request for £500k is possibly unprecedented.
That Rimmer goes on Sky and repeats the thrust of the argument after a SL meeting in Hull suggests that the clubs support the RFL line. Indeed there has been no dissenting SL voice re RFL actions.
It appears the RFL are deducting 6 points AND insisting that to get a license certain creditors MUST be paid.
Looks like the new owner will have to have some serious money.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Absolutely.
Far being it from me to question the wisdom and actions of the mods, but might this not be a good time to run some of the vermin who are so clearly contravening AUP 2.1 out of town?'"
This bit?
Quote: Adeybull "2.1. Comments that are meant to upset or cause distress to other members are prohibited on this site.
* We will not tolerate threatening or abusive behaviour. Anyone who is found guilty of acting this way toward any other member risks being banned from RLFANS.'"
Good job I'm a thick skinned bugger then isn't it, because you and the anteater amongst others have been quite abusive to me, when in reality, I didn't cause the mess your club finds itself in.
Here's a thought! Maybe instead of blindly defending new owners whilst slagging off previous ones, only for the new owners to become previous owners themselves and get the Adeybull treatment, why not accept the fact that Bradford Bills have AGAIN found themselves unable to live within their means and as such, have left themselves open to sanction by the games governing body. Rather than blaming the RFL, previous owners, prior administrators, the tooth fairy and that bitch Thatcher, why not accept that this isn't the early 2000's.....the Bills aren't a big club any more and you may have to get used to away trips to Sheffield and Halifax next year.
On the plus side, At least you'll still have an away day in London!
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| So, only if Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd take control, is the 6point penalty confirmed? If someone else takes over then the circumstances for sanctions will be re-assessed? Thats how it's reading to me, from all the various statements that have been made.
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