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| Quote: Bulliac "To be honest, we are where we are. There is nothing we can do but fight our way out of it and try to get back at the top table and if Kear needs to cut and deal to achieve that, then it's fine by me.
If young players leave, then they leave, they have a short career in RL and I don't blame them one iota for maximising the earnings potential that they've got, so if we gain another player (or two) to compensate for our loss then I'll call that a win. In our situation we need to play a longish game and not expect everything to fall into place tomorrow.'"
That just about covers it for me too. Reiss obviously knows the pecking order currently (as we have all probably surmised too), and if he has the chance to go f/t with a SL club I don't think there is anything we can do to hinder him.
We can produce these great players, and we even have players in the England U19 team tonight to prove that. When we start heading upwards I'm sure we will be a lot more attractive for them to stay with us.
At least we're getting something our coach wants in return here too. Not like in the past......
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| Kear must think we are covered in that position for next year and possibly the one after that. It is a shame to lose the lad but we need promotion and then hopefully a top half or even try for a top 4 next year. I think we will see a few released this year as they are struggling to get a game in Div 1 never mind the championship next season. We can't keep and sign everyone so things have to give. Foxy built his team round a strong pack and Kear looks similar. As others have said, when we are back pushing at the top of the championship the extra money and bigger games will help with retention and recruitment - hopefully!
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| Now stating it's a loan for rest of season
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| If Reiss is not getting game time with us then he should go on loan cant see the big deal, however if we let him go next year it will be our loss.
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| Quote: Bets'y Bulls "Now stating it's a loan for rest of season'"
Green coming on loan to Bradford for the season, with a view to a permanent move for next season.
Can't see why Butterworth would be a loan to Cas though. They're not short of options in the halves and hooker, and I can't see him getting a first team game for them just yet. A permanent signing would make sense as he's a long term option, especially if Adam Milner ends up going to the NRL as has been rumoured.
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| Quote: HamsterChops "
Can't see why Butterworth would be a loan to Cas though. They're not short of options in the halves and hooker, and I can't see him getting a first team game for them just yet. A permanent signing would make sense as he's a long term option, especially if Adam Milner ends up going to the NRL as has been rumoured.'"
I agree
I can't help feeling there's more to this than appears at face value. We've got a guy who hasn't had a sniff of a game for us all season who goes out to Batley on loan and straight into their first team. Then Castleford want to sign him (albeit as 'a project', I assume). It just seems odd
For some reason his face doesn't appear to fit with us - despite the fact the coaches at SL and Championship clubs obviously rate him very highly
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| So despite the initial press releases stating that it was a straight swap; it isn't. Its just a swap/loan until the rest of the seasonhttps://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/51515/bulls-secure-green-on-loan-until-end-of-season-rl
Anyone smell a backpedal.....?
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| He’ll get to train in a full time environment I suppose which wasn’t an option with us or Batley
Interesting to see how he develops.
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| Quote: Fr13daY "So despite the initial press releases stating that it was a straight swap; it isn't. Its just a swap/loan until the rest of the seasonhttps://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/51515/bulls-secure-green-on-loan-until-end-of-season-rl
Anyone smell a backpedal.....?'"
Why do we always look for the negative's in everything " Back Pedal" AH I Forgot this is bradford were all following , this will just be a case of lazy jurno's
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| Quote: Fr13daY "So despite the initial press releases stating that it was a straight swap; it isn't. Its just a swap/loan until the rest of the seasonhttps://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/51515/bulls-secure-green-on-loan-until-end-of-season-rl
Anyone smell a backpedal.....?'"
What initial press release was this?
The one which we put out last night (embargoed till 9.30am) clearly stated the agreement between ourselves and Castleford - player loan swap deal involving Reiss Butterworth and James Green.
The T&A had initially reported the story wrong, so a quick phonecall changed that mistake.
Good move all around with both players returning to their parent clubs at the end of the season.
To quote Andrew Chalmers yeserday: "Bradford Bulls are not a selling club."
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| Quote: Highlander "He’ll get to train in a full time environment I suppose which wasn’t an option with us or Batley
Interesting to see how he develops.'"
Agree.
It's a gamble though because if he shows too well they'll be after him, but if not then he's in the right mindset to take up the reins when he comes back...perhaps shows that CH Bulls will have more FT than this year so good to lay some foundations
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| P.S. more good news to follow.
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "I agree
I can't help feeling there's more to this than appears at face value. We've got a guy who hasn't had a sniff of a game for us all season who goes out to Batley on loan and straight into their first team. Then Castleford want to sign him (albeit as 'a project', I assume). It just seems odd
For some reason his face doesn't appear to fit with us - despite the fact the coaches at SL and Championship clubs obviously rate him very highly'"
I think it's fair to say that the value a coach puts on any individual player, in any particular season, is going to depend what other players he has available, and on that basis I'd say that Green, as a big prop, is going to be more use to us in the first team this season than Reiss who has not been picked at that level all season. Cas may well be thinking longer term, and Reiss is very likely to develop into a good quality, higher division player but Cas are in the position of being able to take a longer term view than we are just now - for us it is imperative that we get out of this division at the end of the season.
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| The number one aim at the minute has to be to get out of this league.
We have let Reiss go out on loan when in all honesty he is 4th choice at the min and have brought in a player who will straight away improve the side. Perfect timing with the hard couple of games comi g up and I'm sure Reiss will benefit massively being at Cas.
It's a win win as far as I'm concerned, and deffo an area of the side where there us room for improvement.
I may be being too harsh but I think Peltiers form has dropped off and Kirk and Wood don't seem to be having a huge impact in terms of taking us forward. Hopefully Greens arrival will see improvements I the middle of the park.
And as has been mentioned, there is more good news to come so all in all I'm very happy at the min.
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| Quote: paulwalker71 "I agree
I can't help feeling there's more to this than appears at face value. We've got a guy who hasn't had a sniff of a game for us all season who goes out to Batley on loan and straight into their first team. Then Castleford want to sign him (albeit as 'a project', I assume). It just seems odd
For some reason his face doesn't appear to fit with us - despite the fact the coaches at SL and Championship clubs obviously rate him very highly'"
Played very well in a struggling Batley team too. As Zapper said, if he does leave, it would be out loss, big time. It would be on par with watching Cameron Scott, Jake Trueman etc ply their trade at their respected clubs.
Only way i could see Cas taking him on loan, and him coming back to us, is maybe they want to trial him before purchasing him as a replacement for Milner. But i'll be very surprised if we see him in a Bulls shirt
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