I think this is the key for me. I don't agree with some of the stuff the OP says. I personally believe Chalmers is in it for the long haul. For me i think he's doing a good job on the basis that the on-field performance next year matters more than anything else. We simply have to get promoted next year. If we have a squad that includes Chisholm, Ryan, Oakes, Crossley and is coached by John Kear,than that is better than anyone could have asked for and puts us in a strong position. In that respect, he's worked miracles IMHO.

But as you say, the PR is key. The twitter account is beyond a farce. He spelled [iabsolutely positively[/i wrong in the tweet he typed, even though there was a picture of the two words underneath his typed tweet

The missed dates thing i think people are going slightly OTT. If we have to wait a week more after the 10th December if it results i JK being coach i'm ok with. I think lying is strong word, i don't believe Chalmers is trying to deceive us or deliberately lie to us, i just think it fits in with the "bad PR" when Chalmers puts a self-imposed end date on. It's just asking for trouble.

PR clearly isn't Chalmers strong point. I think he needs some help with that. Ryan Sparks was a huge off-field loss. When he was here under Green, it was brilliant, and you now see what he's doing with Fev, as Gavin Wilson is doing with York, it can make a big difference. Fan engagement. If we're hired one of those two, i think there would be a big difference in PR relations. Chalmers to run the rugby club (which i believe in the main, he's doing well) and get a good PR guy in. Preferably some one who can spell.

You can only judge them on what they’ve done and there’s room for improvement. They are dealing with a fan base that’s very short on patience – that wasn’t Cha-lo’s fault to begin with but goodwill and benefit of the doubt has been running low for years now.



I’d love to get to a situation like at 99% of other clubs where we can focus on the on field stuff. It would be easier if the club didn’t keep leaving themselves open to such criticism. The pedestrian way they’ve tackled the issue of head coach hasn’t helped matters. The PR vacuum doesn’t help either so the rumour mill gets going and the old worries and annoyances don’t take long to surface.

Chalmers is so weak in this area it’s an obvious area where he needs to recruit someone. Allowing the misspelled media releases to continue is like getting a constant reminder that slapdash amateurs that don’t care about the club are filling important roles. I contacted the owner directly about the matter months ago and didn’t get a reply. I wasn’t the only one either. The lack of a reply spoke volumes.

Were there people ready with the knives when they were announced? I confess I’ve been far more reticent with Cha-Lo than previous owners. That’s partly down to being left bruised by their predecessors and partly down to my research into their past businesses which left me rather worried.

Nothing would please me more than to see them turn this club around. I don’t enjoy posting this stuff. I’d much rather be enthusing about our chances next year. I’m sure I’m not alone. It’s doubly annoying when you see the great work going on with the youth side of things. So much positivity there. The back office needs to raise its game.

Fans always have expectations and when the dust settled and MR C, a reputable figurehead took control, most would have expected a turnaround in fortunes.Especially as sanctioned and advocated by the powers that be.12 point deficit did us no favours and little was done to placate supporters in that we seemed to lurch from one set back to another.Present non developments have merely added disillusionment to an emerging pattern of laboured communication.It's just that we needed to witness a professional approach to problem solving and in the running of the Club.Mistakes are unfortunate, but forgivable, but most of the time there appears little sign of such an approach.To develop trust, it is essential that professionalism is demonstrated.It is paramount in the present state of affairs, that fans are not alienated..they are the lifeblood of the Club after all.On the plus side, the continued emphasis on youth development is a great move by the owners.

Talking of information vacuums, anyone else seen Ethan Ryan and Joe Keyes have started following Gareth Moore on twitter? How long before that's being reported?

Gareth Moore has always been a big mate of Chisholm so maybe they've just struck up a friendship but I agree, we could do with a half back to cover for first month or so

I'm just going to repeat a curious throw away phrase uttered by the lady in the shop when I bought the season tickets. 'I wouldn't worry about it (the tribunal) Andrew's only concern is getting the team on the pitch'

If that's the case, and that attitude is top down then you can understand why other stuff, important to us - communications for example - seem to be massively off the radar at the club with everyone focused on the playing side.

Unfortunately the coaches job is to worry about getting the team on the pitch. The owner should have more concerns because if he gets a team on a pitch in an empty stadium he has lost. (And yes I know we have no coach but there again who's fault is that)

The sceptic in me (which goes with the territory being a bulls fan nowadays) says that he is only interested in getting a team on the field, as his big mate Nige holds a lease saying professional rugby has to be played at Odsal until 2019.............

That's where it gets interesting I think.

If the team is on life support until 2019 when the land can be used for whatever, why bother keeping it going? Let it lie dormant until then? The RFL are making no money as they aren't charging rent so, so close to 2019 you'd surely let it die.

We're on life support for a reason I believe, otherwise why prop up a side in a poor league and waste everyone's time for just one year rather then let it go?

Because it provides a cash boost to other clubs.

While trying to not sound like a broken record, Rugby League is dying in the UK. The RFL surely recognises this, and can't possibly let a possible fanbase of 10,000 that the Bulls could possibly regain (again) disappear.

Having said that, these were the people who suggested that if the Bulls did go their fans would probably support another team.....

To be fair, one person on here has said he's considering a season ticket at Cas or Wakey.

I don't ever really understand that myself. As pssed off as I am, as much as I've sacked off the Bulls whilst I'm this pssed off with the club, I still couldn't bring myself to "support" someone else. Sure, go and watch a game here and there, but not actually support them. It may be different if your club went under maybe, but whilst the club still exists, as much as they infuriate you, you still love em.

Supporting another club? Pfft. No bloody way. If the Bulls packed in RL so would I.

Likewise thinking, unfortunately it's hard not to see the bad side of things. There's been a lot of talk of negativity but I feel after all we've beenput through its realism. Anything other is a complete bonus