FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Geoff Toovey - yes or no for next season
65 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach4526
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I'm also rather tired of being in transition.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain999
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 20159 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Me too but that's a different story..

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15035
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Bullseye "That 0-20 vs Fev was probably the most disappointing match I've ever been to.

That said he had the side playing better rugby than his predecessor and seemed to have an idea about how to recruit. Like Toovey there were off field distractions and he never got the chance to show what he could do with his own side. I think Smith came over well, he conducted himself impeccably during Admin 3. I think that's why he's well thought of.

Based purely on results though we blew it badly when he had the big chance to show he was up to the job.

What's your thoughts on Toovey Red?'"

Smith doesn't cover himself in glory up to Admin 3. As for Toovey he admitted himself that in any other job he would be gone. He thinks the UK loan system is barmy nothing remotely like it in Aus. He seemed fully committed to the cause just needs a settled squad.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator10969
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


I agree about the loan system, it's barmy, but it is designed for our unique (British) circumstances.

Without a proper reserve grade, how else would many young players coming out of the academy play in a suitable environment, which is both beneficial to their own development and which also benefits the clubs? From our own, admittedly special, point of view this season we wouldn't have had a squad without the loanees and DRs, we'd have been down to playing all the academy lads, whether they were mature enough or not. Even with the loaned players a few of our 'kids' have been flogged a bit more than is good for them, imo.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman632No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2023Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



What about Nobby - got experience of the upper end of League 1 icon_wink.gif

(Not actually a serious suggestion, but it is officially law that Brian Noble must be linked to the head coach job every time it comes into question)

RankPostsTeam
Moderator31960
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: Bulliac "I agree about the loan system, it's barmy, but it is designed for our unique (British) circumstances.

Without a proper reserve grade, how else would many young players coming out of the academy play in a suitable environment, which is both beneficial to their own development and which also benefits the clubs? From our own, admittedly special, point of view this season we wouldn't have had a squad without the loanees and DRs, we'd have been down to playing all the academy lads, whether they were mature enough or not. Even with the loaned players a few of our 'kids' have been flogged a bit more than is good for them, imo.'"


Agreed. It probably ensured we completed the season for the RFL but in ensuring we were competitive and providing a proper pathway for young players it utterly failed.

I want to see assurance from the club that we're not going down this road again in 2018.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Well, while he's not really had 2 minutes in the job, officially at least, let's be honest since he was officially signed up, we've served up hopeless cack for the most part. We didn't even get a dead coach bounce. (Or should that be new coach bounce?) We didn't need to tear up trees, but that big zero points, regardless of everything else, is sadly just not good enough.

Maybe he'll be great in years to come, but is he what we needed and need right now? I'd say the evidence shows clearly not. But then I am a tad biased as I don't understand why they didn't stick with Rohan, who had more than show his loyalty, and so I presume would have stayed if a suitable deal was offered, and can't see why a deal acceptable to Toovey wouldn't have been acceptable to Rohan.

I do think though that Toovey has the basic ingredients of being a future good coach, personal experience, loads of abrasiveness and plenty of attitude. May take a while to polish it all though. And if he stays, then without doubt on paper at least we'd have easily the top coach in the division.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach4526
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Bulliac "I agree about the loan system, it's barmy, but it is designed for our unique (British) circumstances.

Without a proper reserve grade, how else would many young players coming out of the academy play in a suitable environment, which is both beneficial to their own development and which also benefits the clubs? From our own, admittedly special, point of view this season we wouldn't have had a squad without the loanees and DRs, we'd have been down to playing all the academy lads, whether they were mature enough or not. Even with the loaned players a few of our 'kids' have been flogged a bit more than is good for them, imo.'"

True to a certain extent but the Loan system has been crazy this year with Leigh loaning players out but also taking players on loan.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator10969
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: rugbyreddog "True to a certain extent but the Loan system has been crazy this year with Leigh loaning players out but also taking players on loan.'"


On the face of it it's crazy, yes, I agree, though there is some logic. Leigh are a bottom end SL club, who will be [iloaning out[/i, to Championship clubs, players who aren't yet ready (even for bottom end) SL and [itaking[/i players from top end SL clubs who aren't ready for 'top end' SL just yet. The real barminess is that there is no proper second team competition.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator31960
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


It's apparently cheaper to make a mockery of the competition than it is to run a reserves team.

Seems crazy when you consider clubs all ran "A" teams for years without it being an issue and they were all just as skint then.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach427
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2020Jun 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I think the loan system always throws up some anomalies - the players who have got a point in the season are not in the plans and contract may end or a view to a longer contract elsewhere. A sweetner to a different deal can always be considered but the loan this year that i didnt understand was Martin Ridyard? Leigh to Huddersfield and seemingly from some reports iv read he has helped them improve and reach the top eights.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator31960
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


I know there was quite a bit of dissatisfaction in the coaching team that Dan Murray went back to Salford before Easter and then surfaced at Fax on dual reg rather than coming to us. He barely figured at all at Salford.

RankPostsTeam
Club Captain90
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 20169 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark " I don't understand why they didn't stick with Rohan, who had more than show his loyalty, '"


surely he would too have required a Visa sorting and probably be less likely to get away with the 'I'm here on a holiday visa ploy....

RankPostsTeam
Moderator31960
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Good point.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator10969
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2023Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: Bullseye "It's apparently cheaper to make a mockery of the competition than it is to run a reserves team.

Seems crazy when you consider clubs all ran "A" teams for years without it being an issue and they were all just as skint then.'"


It was a different world back then, though.

All clubs were part time, for a start and it was actually against the rules to use the game as your principal employment. There were no contracts as such, players generally got 'winning money' or 'losing money' and then only if they actually played. Some big name signings may have got over the odds, even signing on fees but I suspect it was pretty rare. Signing on was largely just a matter of being on the players' register at the RFL.

'A team' players basically got peanuts. They weren't in any way considered to be 'first team squad' members, in the sense we have today but were mostly a collection of enthusiastic younger players hoping to get into the first team and players who were a step below the first team and would only rarely be seriously considered unless something was drastically amiss. The A team was a good way to bring first teamers back to match fitness after injury or giving trials to A.N Other or S.O. Else.

65 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
65 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


13.5859375:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
11m
Film game
Boss Hog
5742
35m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63262
36m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40794
39m
How many games will we win
Butcher
37
44m
Rumours and signings v9
jonh
28898
45m
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
7
51m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4043
51m
Salford placed in special measures
Butcher
108
Recent
Pre Season - 2025
HU8HFC
189
Recent
Salford
Wires71
53
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
2m
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
3m
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
7
3m
Planning for next season
Bent&Bon
184
4m
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
4m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
4m
Accounts
Tony Fax
141
5m
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
5m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40794
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
7
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
batleyrhino
5
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Butcher
37
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Wires71
53
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS